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Organisation must be a total nightmare just now.
Presuming the levels of absences don't entirely improve, I am intrigued about what you'd do with relegation/promotion with so many teams out. The competition is likely perfectly valid/worth running but it doesn't relate very strongly to either the aborted season before, or what you'd expect to see in 2022/3.
(Other leagues too of course!).
Presuming the levels of absences don't entirely improve, I am intrigued about what you'd do with relegation/promotion with so many teams out. The competition is likely perfectly valid/worth running but it doesn't relate very strongly to either the aborted season before, or what you'd expect to see in 2022/3.
(Other leagues too of course!).
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There is still a week to go; I'll give some thoughts once final entries are known.
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The numbers look much healthier after the last update. https://www.4ncl.co.uk/data/2122/runners_riders.htm
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Getting better, yes
Div 3N does seem to be looking especially thin at the moment - as of now it looks like only 1 team (Euwe) registered? Manchester/Bradford do make up about half of the division, so there's a chance of it getting better quite quickly.
(I've not heard anything from Jorvik, so logically presume dead and/or resting.).
Not sure what the minimum viable size is.
With all the multi team/division squads I guess the lower divisions are logically at risk. Although there's a few multi squad teams that should yield teams for 3 central/South.
Div 3N does seem to be looking especially thin at the moment - as of now it looks like only 1 team (Euwe) registered? Manchester/Bradford do make up about half of the division, so there's a chance of it getting better quite quickly.
(I've not heard anything from Jorvik, so logically presume dead and/or resting.).
Not sure what the minimum viable size is.
With all the multi team/division squads I guess the lower divisions are logically at risk. Although there's a few multi squad teams that should yield teams for 3 central/South.
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Quite impressive given that, unless I am missing something, Covid measures have still not been announced, so team captains cannot know who will be willing to play.
Should this discussion not be in some more relevant thread?
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I know of at least six teams in the Central division, including one of mine. That's from four clubs but hopefully there are more that I don't know about.MartinCarpenter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:47 amGetting better, yes
Div 3N does seem to be looking especially thin at the moment - as of now it looks like only 1 team (Euwe) registered? Manchester/Bradford do make up about half of the division, so there's a chance of it getting better quite quickly.
(I've not heard anything from Jorvik, so logically presume dead and/or resting.).
Not sure what the minimum viable size is.
With all the multi team/division squads I guess the lower divisions are logically at risk. Although there's a few multi squad teams that should yield teams for 3 central/South.
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Whilst I've had an amazingly high level of interest from players wanting to play in November a few are subject to not having to wear a mask or at least we will speak again if it becomes necessary.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:18 amQuite impressive given that, unless I am missing something, Covid measures have still not been announced, so team captains cannot know who will be willing to play.
Should this discussion not be in some more relevant thread?
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I presume Covid measures will be similar to the 4ncl congresses.
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We can all presume things, but I am not going to block out a weekend, or free it up, on the basis of a presumption that may be false.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:50 amI presume Covid measures will be similar to the 4ncl congresses.
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You are free to do as you like NickNickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:20 pmWe can all presume things, but I am not going to block out a weekend, or free it up, on the basis of a presumption that may be false.Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:50 amI presume Covid measures will be similar to the 4ncl congresses.
Unfortunately all we can do is presume, due to the very uncertain nature of a global pandemic.
Unless something dramatic changes, is there any reason to believe that the covid precautions the 4ncl have been following will suddenly change?
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I think the very fact that there is a gap where you would expect this information to be might suggest that a change could be under consideration. But we are of course guessing, with only a few weeks to go .Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:30 pmUnless something dramatic changes, is there any reason to believe that the covid precautions the 4ncl have been following will suddenly change?
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..well we can all presumeNickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:41 pmI think the very fact that there is a gap where you would expect this information to be might suggest that a change could be under consideration. But we are of course guessing, with only a few weeks to go .
perhaps they are prudently waiting to see if the situation changes before announcing anything, as has been the pattern since the first plans were announced.
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If I have understood the rules correctly, the 32 teams previously in divisions 1 and 2 will be entitled to fight for 12 places in division 1 and 9 places in division 2. The balance of places being awarded to the three winners of the division 3 competitions. That would make the minimum number 22, although it could go lower with more promotion places on offer.MartinCarpenter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:21 amI am intrigued about what you'd do with relegation/promotion with so many teams out.
I would think the central division 3 is viable, not least because with venues at Leamington and Hinckley, some previous southern teams or players may be tempted.
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Alternatively, the 4NCL could follow rule 1.4, which covers this eventuality.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:55 pmThat would make the minimum number 22, although it could go lower with more promotion places on offer.
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Spirit of Atticus will enter one team only. That team will play in Div 3N. We have too few players currently who are willing to play; and even fewer who are willing to travel far. So we have no choice but to pass up a place in the Div 1/2 scramble, and return to where we started over a decade agoMartinCarpenter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:47 amDiv 3N does seem to be looking especially thin at the moment - as of now it looks like only 1 team (Euwe) registered?