Birmingham Grand Hotel

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Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:54 pm

Those who played in the 4NCL more than twenty years ago may recall this hotel, possibly under the name "Moat House".

There were suggestions that it was to be demolished, but has been refurbished instead.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/esca ... ation.html

The staircase at least looks familiar.

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Joey Stewart » Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:16 pm

My favourite 4ncl venue ever - the only one possible to reach via public transport.
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:51 pm

The ones in Telford and Northampton are also very close to their towns' respective railway stations.

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Phil Neatherway » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:45 am

Leamington is OK for public transport too. A short bus ride from the station.

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:27 am

Buxton was good for that too :)

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:53 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:27 am
Buxton was good for that too :)
Harrogate too I think
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by JustinHorton » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:40 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:16 pm
My favourite 4ncl venue ever - the only one possible to reach via public transport.
We may be operating on different definitions of "reach" but I used to get to West Bromwich by getting a bus from Birmingham.
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Joey Stewart » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:38 pm

Didn't they stop playing there before the year 2000 though? I've only heard that venue talked about as a legend of the ancient world
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:44 pm

I'm still waiting to hear more about the Horton connection.
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:57 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:38 pm
Didn't they stop playing there before the year 2000 though? I've only heard that venue talked about as a legend of the ancient world
At least one weekend was played there during the 2004/05 season. It wasn't very far from West Bromwich Albion football stadium. I'd expect there to be good public transport links to somewhere where 26,000 people might want to go at the same time.

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:43 pm

a 4NCL nerd replies:

My first experience of West Bromwich was in November 1996 (but that was also my first 4NCL season, so it might have been played there before). It also hosted the final weekend of that season, where Invicta Knights seemed to have the title within their grasp but threw it away by drawing with BCM in the last round. Then it was a long while before we returned, and my next memory is the start of the 2002/3 season, just after the closure of the Grand. It also finished the season there, with the rather disappointing Telford (for train connection purposes) introduced for the other three weekends. Then in 2003/4 it was a 3:2 split in favour of West Bromwich, again finishing the season there. Telford was then dropped for 2004/5 and the next season was 4:1 between West Bromwich and Nottingham. I make May 2005 the last weekend held there. I remember the last day for (at least) three reasons:

1) my partner, having thought it might be fun to accompany me, got so utterly bored that she had taken the early morning train home rather than wait around for another minute
2) our two teams in the first division beat 5 GMs between them, my deserted self being one of the victors
3 Wood Green and Guildford were having their by now perennial last round shootout, with Wood Green having draw odds as usual, but it was played in its own room with spectators not allowed (but screen showing the play outside). I amused myself by telling people that spectators could not enter the playing room, lest they realised that half of the world class players had not actually made the trip and were playing remotely. Not many believed me, but I tried.

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:45 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:57 pm
I'd expect there to be good public transport links to somewhere where 26,000 people might want to go at the same time.
You are clearly not a Fulham supporter.
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:52 pm

"You are clearly not a Fulham supporter."

I rather doubt 26000 people would want to go there...

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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:52 pm
"You are clearly not a Fulham supporter."

I rather doubt 26000 people would want to go there...
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Re: Birmingham Grand Hotel

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:54 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:44 pm
I'm still waiting to hear more about the Horton connection.
I didn't actually play you there did I?
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