4NCL Season 2023-24

[Paul Cooksey]

It looks the same format as 22-23 despite the speculation up thread?

[LawrenceCooper]

It looks the same format as 22-23 despite the speculation up thread?

The e-mail to captains also had this text:

"Once the allocation of teams to divisions has been finalised we hope to be in a position to issue entry guidelines in early/mid-July. We anticipate that we’ll give teams from last season first dibs for a couple of weeks, before opening up entry more generally on a ‘first come first served’ basis. We expect the total number of teams we can accommodate to be around 80."

[Roger Lancaster]

It looks the same format as 22-23 despite the speculation up thread?

Lol, that's because it is.

[LawrenceCooper]

The 4NCL website now has their 23-24 main rules and entry guidelines on the homepage. Entry deadline and payment of entry fees is August 16th.

[Ian Thompson]

The 4NCL website now has their 23-24 main rules and entry guidelines on the homepage. Entry deadline and payment of entry fees is August 16th.

Has the 4NCL had a problem collecting fees from teams in the past? The penalty for not paying a £5/£10 wildcard registration fee on time, for example, is now forfeiture of the next weekend's matches and a further penalty ranging from £150 to £750, depending on the division the team is in.

[Joey Stewart]

At a glance it seems like the new rules stem from the fact there have been multiple defaults from various teams over the last few seasons and it is probably to ensure that team managers treat the league with more seriousness by facing much more severe sanctions - there are less places available then before so the 4ncl presumably wants to ensure that all of them are filled and by the most committed of players.

[Ian Thompson]

At a glance it seems like the new rules stem from the fact there have been multiple defaults from various teams over the last few seasons and it is probably to ensure that team managers treat the league with more seriousness by facing much more severe sanctions - there are less places available then before so the 4ncl presumably wants to ensure that all of them are filled and by the most committed of players.

If the aim is to reduce defaults then introducing new rules that result in teams being defaulted for administrative infringements is a strange way to go about it.

[Joey Stewart]

I think because it makes it more of a critical issue to get your wildcard players locked in early rather then as a last minute thing - obviously this isn't really that fair to the captains who often get defaults dumped on them without any real chance to do anything about it but it should aleviate some of the problems as they will be much less likely to register flakey players on the off chance they are available and more committed ones will get their opportunity.

[Mick Norris]

The 4NCL website now has their 23-24 main rules and entry guidelines on the homepage. Entry deadline and payment of entry fees is August 16th.

The Manticores have merged with the Average Woodpushers and are now the Greater Manchester Woodpushers, with 3 teams

[Jonathan Rogers]

"Average Manchester Woodpushers" did not appeal, then?

[Kevin Williamson]

"Average Manchester Woodpushers" did not appeal, then?

Or a compromise with "Mean Manchester Woodpushers"

[Mick Norris]

"Average Manchester Woodpushers" did not appeal, then?

The choice wasn't mine Jonathan

[LawrenceCooper]

With possibly one update to go the current list has 68 teams who have entered and paid for the 2023-24 season: https://www.4ncl.co.uk/data/2324/runners_riders.htm

[LawrenceCooper]

With possibly one update to go the current list has 68 teams who have entered and paid for the 2023-24 season: https://www.4ncl.co.uk/data/2324/runners_riders.htm

Just received from Mike Truran:

"We’re now past the entries deadline and we’ve had a few withdrawals/a few teams who haven’t re-entered so far.

So if any captains/managers are interested in entering teams above the number they had last season they should feel free to do so."

[Mick Norris]

I think that gives us (correct me if I am wrong):

Team Allocation to Divisions 23-24 @ 25 June 2023 | 17:30

Division One
Team MP GP
Chess.com Manx Liberty 22 61½
Chessable White Rose 1 17 58
Cheddleton 17 55½
Wood Green 16 57½
The Sharks 1 15 53½
Wood Green Youth 14 48
Blackthorne 9 38
Celtic Tigers 1 6 37
Chessable White Rose 2 5 33
Barnet Knights A 20 55
Oxford 1 16 53
Alba 16 46½

Division Two
Team MP GP
Gonzaga 5 30½ Not entered
Cambridge University 1 4 28½
West is Best 1 2 26½
Barbican 4NCL 15 48
SchachAttack 12 46
The Sharks 2 11 43½
The ADs 10 42
Sussex Martlets 1 10 40½
CSC/Kingston 1 20 46
Warwickshire Select 1 18 50
Anglian Avengers 1 17 40
Cambridge University 2 16 36½

Division Three Knights
Team MP GP
North East England 5 38½ Not entered
Rhyfelwyr Essyllwg 13 33
Hull & East Riding Tigers 13 31
Crowthorne A 12 32½
Iceni 1 10 31½
Sussex Martlets 2 9 29½
Poisoned Pawns 8 29½ Not entered
Surbiton 5 22½
Watford A 4 20
MK Phoenix 1 5 21½
Poole Patzers 18 44
Wessex Some Stars A 16 40½

Division Three Bishops
Team MP GP
The Rookies 8 39½
KJCA Kings 5 34 Not entered
West is Best 2 18 44 Not entered
Warwickshire Select 2 16 37½
Chessable White Rose 3 12 33½
Oxford 2 10 36½
Ashfield 1 10 27½
Brown Jack 8 29½
Manchester Manticores 7 19½ Greater Manchester Woodpushers 1
Barnet Knights B 5 29½
Average Wood Pushers A 20 47 Greater Manchester Woodpushers 2
MASCeteers 14 40