Div 3 North 2016-17

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Neil Graham
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Neil Graham » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:55 pm

Mick Norris wrote:So, is the conclusion that the Irish players are better than their ratings would suggest?

Look forward to hearing Neil's impressions of his first experience of Div 3 N


It is unfortunate, IMHO, that the early rounds weren't arranged in the way I suggested. I believe that the management/control team were worried about a team defaulting and messing up an all-play-all.

Ashfield-Breadsall 1 had a very easy victory on Saturday and should have won 6-0; a couple of fingerslips meant we conceded two draws. The team was weaker on Sunday but our top three boards held Gonzaga who won Boards 4-6. I think that result gives hope to other teams that the Irish champions are not invincible. The Manx team looks exceptionally strong at the top (1 GM & 2 IMs) but will need to bring in their stronger Boards 4-6.

A-B 2 achieved a good draw on Saturday; we will draw a veil over our performance on Sunday. My own hugely disappointing first half of the season continued - no wins (and hardly any draws) in eight games.

The venue was fine, easily reached up the M1 from our base in Nottingham/Derby.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:15 am

SoA report from Andy Mort
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:00 am

Do we know when the pairings for weekend 2 will be available?
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:24 am

Mick Norris wrote:Do we know when the pairings for weekend 2 will be available?


My guess would be just after the registration deadline so January 6th.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby LawrenceCooper » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:11 am

Mick Norris wrote:Do we know when the pairings for weekend 2 will be available?


It may be old news by now but I noticed that pairings for round 3 have appeared: http://www.4nclresults.co.uk/2016-17/4ncl/3/3n/export/

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:34 pm

I thought the pairings were supposed to be done for round 4 as well as round 3?

Some interesting match ups though

31 Gonzaga - - - Manx Liberty
32 Holmes Chapel - - - Manchester Manticores 3
33 Ashfield Breadsall 1 - - - Manchester Manticores 1
34 Ashfield Breadsall 2 - - - Manchester Manticores 2
35 Hounds and Bears - - - 3Cs 2
36 Bradford DCA Knights C - - - Spirit of Atticus B
37 Cheddleton 2 - - - Manchester Manticores 4
38 Enniscorthy - - - Bradford DCA Knights B
39 3Cs 3 - - - Jorvik
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:49 pm

They should be yes. Less titled players for Jorvik this round I think :) Although an obvious threat of getting beaten up by tiny juniors instead!

Gonzaga - Manx could be quite interesting/telling in some ways, as well as a few others I guess.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Neil Graham » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:43 pm

Mick Norris wrote:I thought the pairings were supposed to be done for round 4 as well as round 3?

Some interesting match ups though

31 Gonzaga - - - Manx Liberty
32 Holmes Chapel - - - Manchester Manticores 3
33 Ashfield Breadsall 1 - - - Manchester Manticores 1
34 Ashfield Breadsall 2 - - - Manchester Manticores 2
35 Hounds and Bears - - - 3Cs 2
36 Bradford DCA Knights C - - - Spirit of Atticus B
37 Cheddleton 2 - - - Manchester Manticores 4
38 Enniscorthy - - - Bradford DCA Knights B
39 3Cs 3 - - - Jorvik


I was going to repeat my comments at the top of the page but I think I'll do the Fantasy Football round-up instead!

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:56 pm

Based on the table, it is essentially 1-5 v 6-10 and 11-14 v 15-18, which is interesting

I'm looking forward to seeing the round 4 pairings
Rounds 3 and 4
Rank all the teams into 4NCL order and then do two rounds of balanced pairings in which no further account is taken of previously earned points.
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:11 pm

Round 4 will be the give away as to what they're up to. It'll sort itself out OK now anyway.

AB1 might be a bit unlucky to be playing Manchester 1 in Bolton - must be fair chances for a really good team to roll out with it being so close.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby LawrenceCooper » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:58 pm

[quote="Mick Norris"]I'm looking forward to seeing the round 4 pairings [quote]

They've just appeared.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:02 pm

I think that answers Martin's question!

31 Manchester Manticores 4 - - - Gonzaga
32 Manx Liberty - - - Holmes Chapel
33 Cheddleton 2 - - - Manchester Manticores 3
34 Manchester Manticores 2 - - - Ashfield Breadsall 1
35 Manchester Manticores 1 - - - Ashfield Breadsall 2
36 3Cs 2 - - - Bradford DCA Knights C
37 Spirit of Atticus B - - - Hounds and Bears
38 Bradford DCA Knights B - - - 3Cs 3
39 Enniscorthy - - - Jorvik
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:29 am

Balanced it is then :) If MM are over strength vs Wakefield then AB may well rate as a bit unlucky!

Cheddleton 2 seem to have a slightly soft pair of draws, but these things will happen somewhere.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Neil Graham » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:48 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:Balanced it is then :) If MM are over strength vs Wakefield then AB may well rate as a bit unlucky!


A bit unlucky? A lot unlucky - especially if you're playing for AB2 :oops: !

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:34 am

The bottom couple of pairings have disappeared from the website

I expect 3Cs 3 have withdrawn from the weekend, and that a triangular match will be needed between the other 3 teams
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