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Adam Raoof
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by Adam Raoof » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:09 pm
IM Jack Rudd wrote:Adam Raoof wrote:Out of interest why is this event not on the ECF calendar, when Guernsey is?
My guess would be that Guernsey made a successful application to be an ECF-graded event, and Jersey didn't.
No, the event is also ECF graded.
PS I am also doing some micro-blogging here -
http://www.chesscircuit.blogspot.com/
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Michael Bennett
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by Michael Bennett » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:00 pm
Nice blog Adam. The free Chess Microbase game player wth the in-built analysis engine works pretty well!
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Michael Bennett
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by Michael Bennett » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:31 pm
Adam Raoof wrote:Out of interest why is this event not on the ECF calendar, when Guernsey is?
It's on the international calendar:
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/?page_id=21604
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LawrenceCooper
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by LawrenceCooper » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:13 pm
I now know that it's six months this week since my last international round-up. How time flies
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LawrenceCooper
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by LawrenceCooper » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:50 pm
Richard Bates wrote:
I think Lawrence was playing in the hope of pursuing a GM norm - but as far as I can work out that's not possible even if he plays the strongest possible field.
Sadly I don't think it's possible now despite being on 3/3 as he needs to play an average of around 2482 in the last five rounds, four of which are titled including two grandmasters. Whilst he can play enough titled players I don't see how he can achieve a high enough rating average, even by rounding up the lowest rated opponent to 2200.
There's still plenty to play for though as rating points are just as important.
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Jonathan Rogers
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by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:41 pm
Probably not literally "just" as important. GM norms are especially hard to achieve and there has been no shortage in the past of people getting to 2500 before they have acquired three norms.
We have noticed for years now the number of swisses where there are 2450 + players and 2250 - players but very few in the middle and this tournament seems to be taking the trend to new extremes ...
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LawrenceCooper
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by LawrenceCooper » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:04 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:Probably not literally "just" as important. GM norms are especially hard to achieve and there has been no shortage in the past of people getting to 2500 before they have acquired three norms.
Looking at our potential GMs at the present I consider that getting to 2500 to be even more difficult than the norms themselves as they require a greater level of consistency as opposed to a 2600+ result over 9 games. We currently have 1 IM over 2500 and close to 20 GM norms amongst the other players. I remain hopeful that English players will achieve the title in the near future.
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Richard Bates
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by Richard Bates » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:50 am
LawrenceCooper wrote:Richard Bates wrote:
I think Lawrence was playing in the hope of pursuing a GM norm - but as far as I can work out that's not possible even if he plays the strongest possible field.
Sadly I don't think it's possible now despite being on 3/3 as he needs to play an average of around 2482 in the last five rounds, four of which are titled including two grandmasters. Whilst he can play enough titled players I don't see how he can achieve a high enough rating average, even by rounding up the lowest rated opponent to 2200.
It wasn't ever possible. Playing the strongest possible field would have only generated an average opposition of 2366. Creating a GM norm tournament (and i don't know if that was a genuine aim of the Jersey organisers) requires a bit more than paying for a few GMs to turn up. In fact, if serious about creating a GM norm tournament there is as much, if not more, value in providing basic conditions to a few FMs/IMs than paying extra for some super GMs. (Providing the core 3GMs are playing of course).
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LawrenceCooper
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by LawrenceCooper » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:51 am
Richard Bates wrote:LawrenceCooper wrote:Richard Bates wrote:
I think Lawrence was playing in the hope of pursuing a GM norm - but as far as I can work out that's not possible even if he plays the strongest possible field.
Sadly I don't think it's possible now despite being on 3/3 as he needs to play an average of around 2482 in the last five rounds, four of which are titled including two grandmasters. Whilst he can play enough titled players I don't see how he can achieve a high enough rating average, even by rounding up the lowest rated opponent to 2200.
It wasn't ever possible. Playing the strongest possible field would have only generated an average opposition of 2366. Creating a GM norm tournament (and i don't know if that was a genuine aim of the Jersey organisers) requires a bit more than paying for a few GMs to turn up. In fact, if serious about creating a GM norm tournament there is as much, if not more, value in providing basic conditions to a few FMs/IMs than paying extra for some super GMs. (Providing the core 3GMs are playing of course).
The irony is that most players in the event, apart from Lawrence, had a mathematical chance as they would have the chance of playing Lawrence, with his higher rating, but realistically very little chance of performing at 2600.
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Michael Bennett
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by Michael Bennett » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:31 am
Richard Bates wrote:Creating a GM norm tournament (and i don't know if that was a genuine aim of the Jersey organisers) requires a bit more than paying for a few GMs to turn up. In fact, if serious about creating a GM norm tournament there is as much, if not more, value in providing basic conditions to a few FMs/IMs than paying extra for some super GMs
Maybe if Jersey had been on the ECF domestic calendar as well as its international calendar, that would have increased the number of entries and also the strength of the entries? I suspect some players wouldn't bother to check the international calendar, assuming that it would be for events further afield?
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Adam Raoof
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by Adam Raoof » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:22 pm
We are having a blitz tournament on Saturday night, if anyone is reading this from Jersey! See
http://www.chesscircuit.blogspot.co.uk for details.
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Michael Bennett
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by Michael Bennett » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:40 pm
Apologies Loz - don't know how that happened, and I should have checked my preview more carefully, as I knew it was Richard I was quoting. All fixed now
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IM Jack Rudd
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by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:40 pm
Richard Bates wrote:In fact, if serious about creating a GM norm tournament there is as much, if not more, value in providing basic conditions to a few FMs/IMs than paying extra for some super GMs. (Providing the core 3GMs are playing of course).
I'm IM Jack Rudd, and I approve this message.
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Roger de Coverly
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by Roger de Coverly » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:04 pm
The Jersey International Masters Chess Tournament, which is the first of its kind to be held in the Island
The first Jersey tournament to have Norm consistent playing conditions, not the first ever Jersey chess tournament.