11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

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Brian Towers
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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Brian Towers » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:17 pm

Hard to understand why Arkell turned down the draw on offer on move 50.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Graham Borrowdale » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:17 pm

Superb finish from Brandon Clarke to beat Arkell and finish 1st=

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Graham Borrowdale » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:18 pm

Brian Towers wrote:Hard to understand why Arkell turned down the draw on offer on move 50.

I guess the generous 1st prize would have played a part

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:37 pm

Brian Towers wrote:Hard to understand why Arkell turned down the draw on offer on move 50.


The tournament situation, must win game.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Paul Dargan » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:08 pm

By my maths it's Hernandez and Pert through

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:20 pm

Graham Borrowdale wrote:Superb finish from Brandon Clarke to beat Arkell and finish 1st=


It also takes his rating over 2300 and qualifies him for the FM title.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby David Sedgwick » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:37 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:...I have a question as a journalist which I hope someone with the necessary knowledge (David Sedgwick or Mike Truran?) can answer speedily

Would 14-year-old Freddie Hand ... become first reserve if any of the eight participants in the British Knockout Championship dropped out? ... Or would Hand be first reserve for just the two qualifiers from the 4NCL Open? Or not be first reserve at all?

In effect the last of your three suggestions.

Apart from the two qualifiers, the British Knockout Championship is an invitation event. If any of the participants were to withdraw, the choice of the replacement invitee would be at Malcolm Pein's discretion.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Leonard Barden » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:05 pm

Spectacular success anyway for Freddie Hand (3/4 against IMs) who is, in the tradition of Mark Taimanov, a talented pianist and who, with the aid of k=40, should notch up around 100+ Fide points from the weekend, bringing him within range of becoming the youngest player in the England top 100.
http://www.winchesterchamberorchestra.o ... -hand.html

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Paul Cooksey » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:28 pm

I was a bit surprised there was not a bigger entry to the open, given the prize, and the likelihood of getting games against titled players.

Is this because tournaments take a while to become established?

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Mike Truran » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:41 pm

I was more surprised by the U135 section entry, which was very disappointing - so much so that we had to reduce the prize fund (announced in advance and accompanied by the offer of a full entry fee refund for anyone wanting to withdraw, in case anyone asks! :wink: Happily nobody did.)

I'm happy to accept that the marketing may have been sub-optimal, although we've not really had the problem in our U135 sections before. Feedback from those who did enter as to possible reasons has been inconclusive; any thoughts from forumites would be more than welcome. As Paul suggests, maybe it is just growing pains?

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Nigel White » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:50 pm

Mike Truran wrote: Feedback from those who did enter as to possible reasons has been inconclusive; any thoughts from forumites would be more than welcome. As Paul suggests, maybe it is just growing pains?


A possible reason was that it clashed with the Central London Congress at Imperial College, which may have been a more convenient/cheaper option for many London & SE players.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Roger de Coverly » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:01 pm

Mike Truran wrote:I'm happy to accept that the marketing may have been sub-optimal, although we've not really had the problem in our U135 sections before.


e2e4 used to see the same effect with low turnout in its lowest section. I might suggest that it's because the lowest section of a Congress would only attract local players who will be loyal to a long established event, but there are still sizeable numbers in the lower Grand Prix sections. Perhaps it's these players who are the potential entrants that aren't being attracted. Does Harben House have any attraction for the chess tourist?

There was a clash with the Exmouth seniors as well, which contained some names you see in the entry list at every Congress.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Brian Towers » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:05 pm

Nigel White wrote:
Mike Truran wrote: Feedback from those who did enter as to possible reasons has been inconclusive; any thoughts from forumites would be more than welcome. As Paul suggests, maybe it is just growing pains?


A possible reason was that it clashed with the Central London Congress at Imperial College, which may have been a more convenient/cheaper option for many London & SE players.

Or, to put it another way, too far South!
Bet you don't have the same problem the next time you have one of these in Yorkshire.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Nick Grey » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:07 pm

Clash with the European Club Cup too.
4NCL to be commended - particularly as some of us are too ill to play & concentrate for more than 90 minutes & had lots of live boards.
Worse on Sunday but got updates from Mike here that being fixed & they were.
The offer of two knockout places being unique & showing that organisers/arbiters can work together is really encouraging.

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Re: 11th 4NCL FIDE Rated Congress

Postby Graham Borrowdale » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:19 pm

As a local I can say that the low entry from local players was a little bit surprising. My own excuse is that I have not played a weekend congress for 20 years, owing to family commitments. There are a few congresses in the EACU (e.g. Bury St Edmunds was 2 weeks before Newport Pagnell), which a number of players, who play perhaps 2-3 congresses a year, are loyal to. I think Roger's point about minor players is probably about right, but I suspect the market for weekend congresses is just about saturated.
As for chess tourists - Newport Pagnell is ok for a beer and a Chinese, but typical of any other small town, so I think it would have appealed to hardened chess addicts only.

I hope these comments are taken as constructive, as they are meant to be.


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