Ginger GM Collection Sale

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Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Paul Dargan » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:26 pm

A few people said they wished they had taken advantage of this last time - so posting here, just noticed it's on again

http://gingergm.com/shop/the-ginger-gm-collection

That's all of the DVDs for £45 I believe.

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Post by Simon Rogers » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:29 pm

Sounds a very good offer.
I know someone at our club who is a big fan of Simon Williams and might be interested.
I have the DVDs Crash Test Chess 1 and Crash Test Chess 2, which I thought were both excellent.

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by John Moore » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:48 am

To bring this up to date, most of the Ginger GM DVDs are currently on sale for a fiver at Chess and Bridge, although you will obviously have to pay postage,

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Jon Mahony » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:18 pm

I wouldn't trust the analysis on some of the earlier ones, when I think of the grading points I’ve lost trying to play that Winawer - Ginger GM says we have a good attacking game here and the computer gives me a position the equivalent of a piece down :lol: Harry the H pawn can F right off.

They did get better though, I'm quite interested in the new one on the English but price is an obstacle...
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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Simon Rogers » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:13 am

Simon Williams is a great chess teacher. I've seen some of his You Tube videos and enjoyed his game against Lancashire's Martyn Hamer.

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Jon Mahony » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:29 pm

Simon Rogers wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:13 am
Simon Williams is a great chess teacher. I've seen some of his You Tube videos and enjoyed his game against Lancashire's Martyn Hamer.
Yeah don't get me wrong I like Simon, his blitz death match with Ben Finegold was really entertaining. There's one part where Simon draws or looses an ending 3 pawns up and Ben goes "And remember Ginger GM's DVD's on the endgame are available now from his website!"
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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by John Moore » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:16 pm

For my part, I find Simon's style a bit wearing, but I know a lot players like him. Incidentally, Chess and Bridge have still got a load of Ginger GM DVDs at a fiver and they are certainly worth a look. Ivan Sokolov on Middlegame Pawn Structures is a great buy at that price and he doesn't find it necessary to mention Harry the H pawn once,

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Simon Rogers » Sat May 15, 2021 9:54 pm

Thanks for the information John. I'll take a look at the Chess & Bridge website.

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Jon Mahony » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:00 am

I downloaded the Jobova London System course from Ginger GM as I've heard good things, very interesting stuff. I kind of wish I hadn't done it to be honest, I'm trying to get out of playing these hacky 1.d4 sidelines - spent years playing the Colle-Zuke / Barry Attack / 150 Attack, with very mixed results in the latter 2 (the Colle-Zuke is great if you are allowed into it, very hard to loose). I've been trying to train myself to get into some proper 1.d4 2.c4 main lines, but I can tell this is going to get whipped out on Chess.com quite a lot now.

Supposedly the Killer Tromp with Julian Hodgson is out in a couple of weeks, I've never really considered playing the opening (especially after 1.d4 d5) but might be worth a look too.
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Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:10 am

Jon Mahony wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:00 am
Supposedly the Killer Tromp with Julian Hodgson is out in a couple of weeks, I've never really considered playing the opening (especially after 1.d4 d5) but might be worth a look too.
i wonder whether it will recommend taking on f6 when allowed. That went out of fashion in the mid 1990s for a while and my personal experience was that after a while it become tiresome with the White pieces rarely to have a bishop pair and be later vulnerable to Black's domination of the dark squares. That said, perhaps 1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 is preferable to 1. d4 d5 2. Bg5 .

You used to get people seeking to avoid the Tromp. I had a game that started 1. d4 c5 2. d5 when my opponent avoided 2. .. Nf6 for fear that the reply would be 3. Bg5

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Post by NickFaulks » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:18 pm

I have never understood why 1...g6 is not a more popular reply to 1.b3. The "refutation" is presumably 2.Bb2, Nf6 3.Bxf6, but then you have the same position as after 1.d4, Nf6 2.Bg5, g6 3.Bxf6 ( what else? ), but having played a pawn to b3 instead of d4. How does that help?
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Post by Nick Burrows » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:24 pm

1.b3 g6 2.Bb2 Nf6 3.Bxf6 is already objectively =+.

However as a surprise weapon it is quite dangerous if black doesn't know how to react to whites best plan. I quickly got a winning position with this against a 2400+ rated player.

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:53 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:18 pm
The "refutation" is presumably 2.Bb2, Nf6 3.Bxf6, but then you have the same position as after 1.d4, Nf6 2.Bg5, g6 3.Bxf6 ( what else? ), but having played a pawn to b3 instead of d4. How does that help?
White can continue with c4, Nc3 and Rc1. It's a line I sometimes played myself in the 1970s and I've noticed Jobava playing it in recent years.

I tried the idea 1. b3 Nf6 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 Bf5 4. Bxf6 exf6 5. Ne2 0-0 6. d4 against Bernard Cafferty once. Other than creating an original position, I doubt its merit.

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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:05 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:24 pm
However as a surprise weapon it is quite dangerous if black doesn't know how to react to whites best plan.
Are you willing to reveal what that plan is? I'm asking because I would like to know.
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Re: Ginger GM Collection Sale

Post by Jon Mahony » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:09 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: You used to get people seeking to avoid the Tromp. I had a game that started 1. d4 c5 2. d5 when my opponent avoided 2. .. Nf6 for fear that the reply would be 3. Bg5
I never had much trouble playing it against it myself - just used to go 1...Nf6 2Bg5 Ne4 and just get c5 in quick - always felt a fairly comfortable game with black... mind you we are talking the minors and inters here, where you can make a lot of it up as you go along :D
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