Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Discuss anything you like about chess related matters in this forum.
NickFaulks
Posts: 8475
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:06 pm

My distaste for this individual, a luminary at the St Louis Chess Club, has been well vented previously. However, I did not expect to see Jen Shahade out him as a serial predator on young female chess players.

https://twitter.com/JenShahade/status/1 ... de%3Dfalse
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

User avatar
Joey Stewart
Posts: 1866
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:35 pm
Location: All Of Them

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Joey Stewart » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:27 pm

Sounds like you'll be having the last laugh against him if all these allegations lead to a prosecution.
Was this the same reason you personally disliked him or something else?
Lose one queen and it is a disaster, Lose 1000 queens and it is just a statistic.

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7260
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:00 pm


NickFaulks
Posts: 8475
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:21 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:27 pm
Sounds like you'll be having the last laugh against him if all these allegations lead to a prosecution.
Good enough for me if he is just discredited and loses his position at St Louis Chess Club - presumably a good one to have.
Was this the same reason you personally disliked him or something else?
No, it was his post game interviews at the Sinquefield Cup.
NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:22 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:42 am
but you have to wonder how long people are going to feel able to say stuff like this without either the evidence to back it up or any effective pushback.
NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:06 pm
By the way, I have felt that Ramirez' simpering questions to other players of "you are playing Niemann in round x, this must be very unsettling for you and how are you handling it?" have been beyond disgusting. Assuming St Louis chess survives this, I hope never to see the little creep there again - in future years, obviously.
It has been quite clear that Ramirez has all along seen this as a path to making a journalistic breakthrough by getting Niemann convicted as a cheat.

As I have been saying ad nauseam, the solution lies with CAS.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

User avatar
MJMcCready
Posts: 3213
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by MJMcCready » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:51 am

But if we are being honest, what are the chances of him being the only titled player guilty of that charge.

NickFaulks
Posts: 8475
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:36 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:51 am
But if we are being honest, what are the chances of him being the only titled player guilty of that charge.
What is your point?
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

Simon Rogers
Posts: 2340
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:30 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Simon Rogers » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:36 am

There is a lengthy post on this website:
https://sahmatlista.wordpress.com

User avatar
IM Jack Rudd
Posts: 4828
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:13 am
Location: Bideford

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 am

Please will you start linking to the relevant subpages and not the websites as a whole.

https://sahmatlista.wordpress.com/2023/ ... ponasanja/

Roger de Coverly
Posts: 21322
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 am

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 am
Please will you start linking to the relevant subpages and not the websites as a whole.
You have to run Google translate or similar as well.

It's by Pete Doggers, so I expect there's an English original somewhere, possibly chess.com.

The accused player interveiwed Niemann in a manner said to have be biased and designed to make Niemann look bad.

Kevin Thurlow
Posts: 5839
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:41 am

"But if we are being honest, what are the chances of him being the only titled player guilty of that charge."

We don't know he is guilty. In answer, to your question, er, "zero"?

Paul Cooksey
Posts: 1525
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:15 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Paul Cooksey » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:04 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 am
It's by Pete Doggers, so I expect there's an English original somewhere, possibly chess.com.
https://www.chess.com/news/view/alejand ... misconduct

I think the allegations are so serious that our opinions on whether he is a good or bad broadcaster are not relevant.

Simon Rogers
Posts: 2340
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:30 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Simon Rogers » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:36 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 am
Please will you start linking to the relevant subpages and not the websites as a whole.

https://sahmatlista.wordpress.com/2023/ ... ponasanja/
Sorry, Jack.
As I mentioned a couple of times before, I have problems with my links as I only have access to the forum and the Internet from my mobile phone.
I always try to post the correct link wherever I can.
Any help will be much appreciated.
I have found a lot of events to post in the Congress Diary Category. I will try to post the direct link but may need some help from forum members.
Many thanks, Simon.

Mick Norris
Posts: 10382
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:05 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:04 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 am
It's by Pete Doggers, so I expect there's an English original somewhere, possibly chess.com.
https://www.chess.com/news/view/alejand ... misconduct

I think the allegations are so serious that our opinions on whether he is a good or bad broadcaster are not relevant.
Agree with this, though I'm not sure that's what Nick meant upthread
Any postings on here represent my personal views

NickFaulks
Posts: 8475
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:09 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:05 pm
Agree with this, though I'm not sure that's what Nick meant upthread
My complaint is not that he is a bad commentator,* but that he abused his privileged position as an postgame interviewer for personal advancement. I knew nothing about his alleged abuse of his position as a senior chess coach in relation to young female students, but given what I already did know about his character I do not find it all that surprising.

* Which I do think he is, relying heavily on "this is a blunder, the computer says it is -1.3".
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

User avatar
MJMcCready
Posts: 3213
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:18 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:36 am
MJMcCready wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:51 am
But if we are being honest, what are the chances of him being the only titled player guilty of that charge.
What is your point?
I can think of a certain English GM with a far worse reputation than him, I'm sure you know who I mean. Unfortunately, some of us have seen him in action firsthand on that front, and more than once or twice.