NCCU and the MCF

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:48 pm

I had actually forgotten that this application process started shortly after my daughter was born; we are currently attending University open days :lol:
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:55 pm

A certain deceased chess player and official with a double barrelled name will be turning in their grave tonight :)
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Andrew Wainwright » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:55 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:48 pm
I had actually forgotten that this application process started shortly after my daughter was born; we are currently attending University open days :lol:
Hope you are keeping well Mick.

It took too long. But in the end we got there mate.

Now lets show them all why this was worth fight for.

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Andrew Wainwright » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:56 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:55 pm
A certain deceased chess player and official with a double barrelled name will be turning in their grave tonight :)
Old news. Move on.

As we said in the meeting today, this isn't about the past. It is a step towards the future!

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:57 pm

Andrew Wainwright wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:07 pm
MartinCarpenter wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:02 pm
I'm absolutely astonished, albiet in a good way!

Always nice when the world gets more rational and cooperative :)

Might have four strong teams in the county championship qualifiers this year?!
Peace in our time. :D

I tried to explain the background to this saga to my wife this evening. As a rational human being she didn't get it. :lol:

She did understand when I said that our son will now get the opportunity to play the MCF every year. An opportunity that 30yrs ago, as a junior player, I did not have (nor did my counterparts in Manchester). I think that says everything.
It isn't actually all that impossible to explain in some ways - just say that the Lancashire people were sure that they were right about Manchester not being a county.

Anyone who knows anything about chess players will know just how madly stubborn we can be when we think we're right. Often regardless of how impractical/self destructive we're being in the process!

It can even be admirable in its place just....

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:58 pm

Andrew Wainwright wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:56 pm
As we said in the meeting today, this isn't about the past. It is a step towards the future!
I will certainly drink to that <hic>
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:37 pm

Either way, I will enjoy taking teams to play both the MCF and Lancashire. That is not just because I live in Holmfirth and it is a short hop away. I like both organisations.
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:52 am

Stephen Westmoreland wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:37 pm
Either way, I will enjoy taking teams to play both the MCF and Lancashire. That is not just because I live in Holmfirth and it is a short hop away. I like both organisations.
I've played in all of the counties and its all good :) Often the same players of course.

I've played in all 4, probably even qualified to play for three of them permanently, although there's obviously only one I could imagine doing so!
(I'm not quite sure if Warrington N of the river qualifies as Lancashire, Cheshire, both or neither :))

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am

Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:35 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am
Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
We're a border town :) I guess the technical position may well be both, not that it matters!

The NW bit I'm in now probably thinks of itself as being in Merseyside as much as anywhere else.

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Alan Walton » Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:44 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am
Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
It was Lancashire before the county changes (the town originally was north of the river, but had expanded), but it decided not to join Merseyside or Greater Manchester; and thus was disconnected from Lancashire entirely, so was amalgamated into Cheshire

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Alan Walton » Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:47 pm

Alan Walton wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am
Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
It was Lancashire before the county changes (the town originally was north of the river, but had expanded), but it decided not to join Merseyside or Greater Manchester; and thus was disconnected from Lancashire entirely, so was amalgamated into Cheshire

It is a bit like my village, where the old Yorkshire/Lancashire county border passes through it; in fact I cross that border every time I go to my regular pub; and 3Cs as a chess club has crossed over it multiple times in its history

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:49 pm

Alan Walton wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am
Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
It was Lancashire before the county changes (the town originally was north of the river, but had expanded), but it decided not to join Merseyside or Greater Manchester; and thus was disconnected from Lancashire entirely, so was amalgamated into Cheshire
Fun :) Might even be different in chess terms, not sure.

Back to more important things - does this mean we get GM in NCCU county chess this season or do we have to wait a year?

It'll be great if we suddenly have four fully viable teams.

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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:04 pm

TBC
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Re: NCCU and the MCF

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:27 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:49 pm
Alan Walton wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 am
Well, Warrington is in Cheshire so you might expect that to be the answer
It was Lancashire before the county changes (the town originally was north of the river, but had expanded), but it decided not to join Merseyside or Greater Manchester; and thus was disconnected from Lancashire entirely, so was amalgamated into Cheshire
Fun :) Might even be different in chess terms, not sure.

Back to more important things - does this mean we get GM in NCCU county chess this season or do we have to wait a year?

It'll be great if we suddenly have four fully viable teams.
Conversions are happening. From the Yorkshire side we are entering 5 teams (maybe more). Would be great to see a big MCF representation. Along with Lancs and other counties.
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