9 move checkmate
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Here is a very thematic helpmate my opponent constructed in a congress game when I was a junior:
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My quickest OTB win.
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Ian Kingston >... a relatively obscure trap in the KG - 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Bc4 Bh4+ 5.Kf1 d5 6.Bd5 Nf6 7.Nh4 Nd5 8.Nf3?? Ne3... <
Yes, relatively obscure but not only in the KG - 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nd2 e5 3.de Ng4 4.h3?? Ne3! 0-1 Gibaut-Lazard 1924 Paris Ch.
Yes, relatively obscure but not only in the KG - 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nd2 e5 3.de Ng4 4.h3?? Ne3! 0-1 Gibaut-Lazard 1924 Paris Ch.
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My quickest graded game lasted just five moves. I was Black (thank goodness!)
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Another Budapest cheapo!
John McKenna - it is now generally accepted that Gibaud-Lazard never really happened (at least not in the four move version)
John McKenna - it is now generally accepted that Gibaud-Lazard never really happened (at least not in the four move version)
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Re: 9 move checkmate
My apologies to the late Mr. Gibaud who it seems protested to the BCM in 1937 that it was not him playing white. There are then a number of other discrepancies to do with the game but it is possble that sometime, somewhere a similar sequence of moves was played by Mr. Lazard as black. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Peter Williams. did you realise you were saccing a pawn with 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5 3 Bg2 c6 4 b3 as 4...dxc4 5 bxc4 Qd4 forks rook and pawn?
My shortest win as a schoolboy:
1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nc3 Nd7? 4 cxd5 cxd5 5 Nxd5 e5 6 dxe5 Qg5??? 7 Bxg5 Nxe5 (perhaps the best move?) 8 Nc7 mate.
I had to travel an hour there and back for that nonsense, although the mate is original. For some reason it is not to be found in Chessbase.
RF Combe v W Hazenfuss Folkestone Olympiad 1933
1 d4 c5 2 c4 cxd4 3 Nf3 e5 4 Nxe5? Qa5ch
Combe, a future British Champion, commented something like, 'Nxe5 was positionally sound but tactically weak'. It is quite likely this is his best remembered game.
My shortest win as a schoolboy:
1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nc3 Nd7? 4 cxd5 cxd5 5 Nxd5 e5 6 dxe5 Qg5??? 7 Bxg5 Nxe5 (perhaps the best move?) 8 Nc7 mate.
I had to travel an hour there and back for that nonsense, although the mate is original. For some reason it is not to be found in Chessbase.
RF Combe v W Hazenfuss Folkestone Olympiad 1933
1 d4 c5 2 c4 cxd4 3 Nf3 e5 4 Nxe5? Qa5ch
Combe, a future British Champion, commented something like, 'Nxe5 was positionally sound but tactically weak'. It is quite likely this is his best remembered game.
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In fairness to Combe, I believe he had been playing a very lengthy adjournment from the previous round and did not want to play. Apparently, he showed the game to other people afterwards, which shows an impressive attitude.
From Gambit offers possibilities...
1.f4 e5, 2.fxe5 d6, 3.exd6 Bxd6, 4.b3 (or 4.Nc3 etc) 4....Qh4+, 5.g3 Q(or B)xg3+
From Gambit offers possibilities...
1.f4 e5, 2.fxe5 d6, 3.exd6 Bxd6, 4.b3 (or 4.Nc3 etc) 4....Qh4+, 5.g3 Q(or B)xg3+
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Is 7..dxe5 OK providing black plays 9..Nc6 though? This was played in Pilnik Kashdan and although white won I'm not sure it was forced?Roger de Coverly wrote:There's this one, which all Dragon players should know, but some don't.
The error, as demonstrated by Jon Mestel back in the seventies, is not 6 .. Bg7 as some lazy writers used to tell us, but 7 .. dxe5, where the "only move" is 7 .. Nh5. A point being that 8 g4 can be met by 8 .. Nxf4.
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You may be right, that it's just a tactical tightrope to achieve a position where Black is a bit worse. Much the same can apply to the Mestel line as well. The Levenfish with f4 doesn't have a good reputation these days, there was a comment by Short that if you played the Grand Prix attack without d3, you may have a chance to transpose into a Dragon. The problem being that it would be the Levenfish line.Laurie Roberts wrote: Is 7..dxe5 OK providing black plays 9..Nc6 though? This was played in Pilnik Kashdan and although white won I'm not sure it was forced?
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So how are people doing those dinky little play-throughs? I could show you the five-move checkmate I once managed on the internet.
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Somewhat turning aside. If you programmed 2 computers to play random legal moves, does Black have an advantage because some of the time Black would give mate in 2 moves?
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If my memory is correctKevin Thurlow wrote:From Gambit offers possibilities...
1.f4 e5, 2.fxe5 d6, 3.exd6 Bxd6, 4.Nf3 g5, 5.h3 Bg3#
was played in the 1970s a Berks league match and reported by David Blackman in the Reading Mercury. Black was David Tucker.
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Re: 9 move checkmate
Justin, all you need do is paste a game in PGN format and surround it by opening and closing pgn tags - <pgn>/</pgn> but with '[' and ']' in place of '<' and '>'.JustinHorton wrote:So how are people doing those dinky little play-throughs? I could show you the five-move checkmate I once managed on the internet.
This very neat functionality was provided by Paolo Casaschi - there's some information here and I think something was written earlier though I've not found it.
Try creating a post and quoting from a previous post which includes a play-through game - then you'll see what's what.