Grand Prix in London ?

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Mick Norris » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:02 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:London looks on paper the weakest event, nice to see Radjabov playing though, and will be interesting to see how Topalov gets on in London


A shame that we won't have Morozevich & Ivanchuk playing in London, they are always good entertainment.


The Grand Prix participants have changed (Gashimov in for Kamsky)

Radjabov now not coming to London, but Karjakin is

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby LawrenceCooper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:40 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
The Grand Prix participants have changed (Gashimov in for Kamsky)


Kamsky's comments on facebook regarding the change:

"I must say, I'm disappointed with the way FIDE handled the Grand Prix announcement. First, yesterday I was included in the official list by rating and today, I'm excluded from the same list, simply because FIDE had a misunderstanding with one of the players. This is very unprofessional. Mildly put."

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Adam Raoof » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:42 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:
The Grand Prix participants have changed (Gashimov in for Kamsky)


Kamsky's comments on facebook regarding the change:

"I must say, I'm disappointed with the way FIDE handled the Grand Prix announcement. First, yesterday I was included in the official list by rating and today, I'm excluded from the same list, simply because FIDE had a misunderstanding with one of the players. This is very unprofessional. Mildly put."


The organisers can still invite Kamsky as a wild card.
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby LawrenceCooper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:44 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:
The Grand Prix participants have changed (Gashimov in for Kamsky)


Kamsky's comments on facebook regarding the change:

"I must say, I'm disappointed with the way FIDE handled the Grand Prix announcement. First, yesterday I was included in the official list by rating and today, I'm excluded from the same list, simply because FIDE had a misunderstanding with one of the players. This is very unprofessional. Mildly put."


The organisers can still invite Kamsky as a wild card.


I'll let you post that on his wall :roll:

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Mick Norris » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:46 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:
The Grand Prix participants have changed (Gashimov in for Kamsky)


Kamsky's comments on facebook regarding the change:

"I must say, I'm disappointed with the way FIDE handled the Grand Prix announcement. First, yesterday I was included in the official list by rating and today, I'm excluded from the same list, simply because FIDE had a misunderstanding with one of the players. This is very unprofessional. Mildly put."


The organisers can still invite Kamsky as a wild card.


no, they already have the full amount of wild cards
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Adam Raoof » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:56 pm

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"CJ de Mooi, the President of the English Chess Federation (ECF), said: “I am delighted to welcome the Agon Chess Grand Prix to London in our Olympic year. The ECF looks forward to a long partnership with Agon, an innovative company that has proven itself on both the world stage and the chess board.”"
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Stewart Reuben » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:42 am

The event in September at Simpson's will have a prize fund and thus stand alone.
It will be part of the overall GP.
The overall GP provids qualifiers in the World Chmpionship cycle.
The events held at Simpson's in August in recent years have had enough conference space for players, spectators and commentary. There may be less available in the autumn.
Were I only be able to attend one of the three events I would choose the London Chess Classic in December because of the English players participating. If I wanted to attend the most competitive it would be the Candidates in March.

I wonder if CJ realises that, after the Candidates, Agon intends to take the events to other major cities.

We should mount a write-in campaign to get the Candidates or LCC a series on terrestrial TV. 1000 independent messages might do the trick. For newspapers 100 has been enough.

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Roger de Coverly » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:12 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:The events held at Simpson's in August in recent years have had enough conference space for players, spectators and commentary. There may be less available in the autumn.


I was wondering what Agon mean by "invite-only"

Agon wrote:However, the requirement to transfer the event to London from Chelyabinsk at this relatively late stage means that it will be a smaller, invite-only event.


Are they referring to players or spectators?

Also Agon were proposing intensive, intrusive even, internet coverage. Events at Simpsons have struggled with even the basics of providing game feeds and pgn downloads.

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Adam Raoof » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:17 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Stewart Reuben wrote:The events held at Simpson's in August in recent years have had enough conference space for players, spectators and commentary. There may be less available in the autumn.


I was wondering what Agon mean by "invite-only"

Agon wrote:However, the requirement to transfer the event to London from Chelyabinsk at this relatively late stage means that it will be a smaller, invite-only event.


Are they referring to players or spectators?

Also Agon were proposing intensive, intrusive even, internet coverage. Events at Simpsons have struggled with even the basics of providing game feeds and pgn downloads.


It means that there won't be tickets on general sale to the chess public.
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby JustinHorton » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:32 am

Which does rather reduce the point of having the event in London.
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Paul Cooksey » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:33 am

So we might only have RDK's word for it that the event is in London not Chelyabinsk?

I saw Capricorn One on TV recently. I'm suspicious :)

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby JustinHorton » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:37 am

As I recall there are more scientific errors in that film than there are errors of fact in Warriors of the Mind.
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby Paul McKeown » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:42 am

Invitation only. Wonderful.

Are they going to try to charge for access to the game scores or some other foolishness, is that what they mean by "commercialise"?

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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby John McKenna » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:37 pm

It makes sense to make it invitation-only - think of it as preventative pest control. The last thing a noble old British institution like Simspsons needs or wants is a termite infestation.
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Re: Grand Prix in London ?

Postby David Robertson » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:03 pm

Never seen a chess story here before. Just shows what a large PR budget can do.

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