Media comments on chess

Andrew Bak · Post by **Andrew Bak** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:55 am

"A World Chess Federation Grand Master?" Wut's dat?

Phil Neatherway · Post by **Phil Neatherway** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:07 am

James Naughtie interviewed Gary Kasparov on the Radio 4 |Today programme at about 7.50 this morning. The discussion was about Putin.

Roger de Coverly · Post by **Roger de Coverly** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:39 am

Jonathan Bryant wrote:Pillock in the news (aka: yet more quality journalism)

It might be the journalist, but also making false claims to be a GM.

NickFaulks · Post by **NickFaulks** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:57 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Jonathan Bryant wrote:Pillock in the news (aka: yet more quality journalism)
It might be the journalist, but also making false claims to be a GM.

He is clearly referring to the Arena title he has obtained by playing online.

Roger de Coverly · Post by **Roger de Coverly** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:07 am

NickFaulks wrote: He is clearly referring to the Arena title he has obtained by playing online.

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=406686

Do FIDE publish a list of holders of the Arena titles?

Brian Towers · Post by **Brian Towers** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:58 am

Andrew Bak wrote:"A World Chees Federation Grand Master?" Wut's dat?

I suspect that is a FIDE Arena Grandmaster. The "Arena" bit probably got edited out at some stage.

When I was at Oxford there was a brilliant, eccentric fellow mathematician at the same college who got rejected by GCHQ. He came up at 17, something which probably isn't allowed these days, won a prize for coming top in the country in physics A level (I didn't even know you could get prizes for that), was second in the university in Mods (the end of first year exams), eased up a bit in the second and third year and "only" got a middling first in Finals. He then applied to GCHQ for a job and was rejected! So, Charlie, much more talented and able people than you have been rejected by GCHQ. Move on. Life is something that is lived going forward.

Stewart Reuben · Post by **Stewart Reuben** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:42 pm

Heard on the TV news yesteday about Kid's Company.
Camil Batmangkidjh 'Raising money is like a Financial chess Game'. Of course I hzave spelled her name incorrectly.

John Upham · Post by **John Upham** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:45 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:Of course I hzave spelled her name incorrectly.

"Irony, irony, they've all got it irony"

How would have Andre Preview spelt her name?

Roger Lancaster · Post by **Roger Lancaster** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:23 pm

On the general subject of chess titles (Charlie Storey et al) I fear it's unreasonable to expect journalists to appreciate subtle distinctions such as the difference between FM, IM and GM. Even if they do, they know most readers won't. For example, there's no point putting out a press release or equivalent describing someone as a "FIDE Master" because any non-specialist journalist, writing a general news story, will figure that this description is totally unhelpful ("What's FIDE?") to the vast majority of readers. So titles inevitably get mangled. It's totally different with specialist chess columns which, as one general news journalist rather disparagingly told me, are a bit like Gardening Notes where one is catering to a small but specialist readership capable of understanding these fine distinctions.

JustinHorton · Post by **JustinHorton** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:54 pm

Roger Lancaster wrote: So titles inevitably get mangled.

Well yes, but you'd want to know whether the hack just decided Charlie was a Grandmaster or whether they were given any reason to think so...

Roger Lancaster · Post by **Roger Lancaster** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:22 pm

Justin, that's displaying uncharacteristic lack of generosity of spirit

Matt Mackenzie · Post by **Matt Mackenzie** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:27 pm

Some media outlets still use the generic "chess master" for precisely those reasons. Wonderfully unspecific

Stewart Reuben · Post by **Stewart Reuben** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:21 am

Had FIDE at that time consulted me about FIDE Master, I would have advised very strongly against it. Only very knowledgeable people understand what it means. People have asked, in all seriousness, 'What has it got to do swith dogs?' Candidate Master is quite easy to understand. I wanted to introduce Elite Grandmaster but it got voted down.

Brian Towers · Post by **Brian Towers** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:47 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:Had FIDE at that time consulted me about FIDE Master, I would have advised very strongly against it. Only very knowledgeable people understand what it means. People have asked, in all seriousness, 'What has it got to do swith dogs?'

Brilliant!

"What did you say? You're a fido master?"

Neil Graham · Post by **Neil Graham** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:25 am

Brian Towers wrote:
Stewart Reuben wrote:Had FIDE at that time consulted me about FIDE Master, I would have advised very strongly against it. Only very knowledgeable people understand what it means. People have asked, in all seriousness, 'What has it got to do swith dogs?'
Brilliant!

"What did you say? You're a fido master?"

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=26062828
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=4645995
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2083086

A few candidates for the FIDO master title.

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