The second most famous Armenian?

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Michael Jones
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The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Michael Jones » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:06 am

Aronian being suggested as a role model for any Armenians not so keen on Kardashian...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20932705

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Reg Clucas » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:26 pm

I'd never heard of her until I saw that article yesterday. I think Tigran Petrosian is more famous than both of them.

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Ray Sayers » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Yes, Tiger Pete was the first name which popped into my head too :D

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by David Robertson » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:10 pm

Lev Aronian is better-looking. No?

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:27 pm

David Robertson wrote:Lev Aronian is better-looking. No?
Than Kim Kardashian or Tigran Petrosian?

(This could get quite surreal very quickly...)

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by AustinElliott » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:30 pm

Does no-one in Armenia view Gary Kimovich Kasparov as sort of Armenian any more? I always understood his mother was Armenian, which would make him at least as Armenian as Ms Kardashian. I sort of recall that in the early 80s Gary K was friendly with Iron Tigan and his wife Rona, and had the Armenians (as well as Azeris) very much in his corner when he was taking on Karpov.

Ah well, celebrity is all. And I dare say Gary Kimovich is less popular and well known now he is a sort of political figure than when he was world chess champion...

Anyway, Aronian seems a nice guy, as well as an excellent chess player, so you could do a lot worse as a role model. Though you do wonder if, like that other talented Armenian player Rafi Vaganian, he is a bit TOO normal and well-balanced to be obsessive enough to reach No. 1.

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Dan O'Dowd » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 am

Well; Kasparov was born in Azerbaijan and lived there for his early life so that would immediately kybosh claims of Armenianness, but Kaspy himself has always felt himself to be a Russian.

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Colin Patterson » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:33 pm

Have we ruled out David Dickinson then? A bit of a scally in his youth, but very popular with the more mature lady these days.

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:10 am

Dan O'Dowd wrote:Well; Kasparov was born in Azerbaijan and lived there for his early life so that would immediately kybosh claims of Armenianness, but Kaspy himself has always felt himself to be a Russian.
The most accurate description of Gazza's ethincity is possibly Russo-Armenian Jew (from Baku :wink: )?
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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:34 am

Matt Mackenzie wrote: The most accurate description of Gazza's ethincity is possibly Russo-Armenian Jew (from Baku :wink: )?
It's known that his name was changed from Weinstein, but it took the Russian form of Kasparov instead of the Armenian form of Kasparian ( as in the problemist , Petros ian and Aron ian)

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Gerard Killoran » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:52 am

Haven't you heard of Cher (Cherilyn Sarkisian) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher or Charles Aznavour (Shahnour Vaghenag Aznavourian? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Aznavour?

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by John Clarke » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:04 am

More significant (though perhaps nowadays less well-known) than any of the aforementioned would be the Mikoyan brothers.

The elder, Anastas Ivanovich (1895-1978) was a leading Soviet politician for over forty years, surviving near the top from the time of Lenin until the early days of the Brezhnev era. For a time he was the second most powerful figure in the USSR after Krushchev.

His younger brother Artem (1905-70) was an aircraft designer, who in partnership with Mikhail Iosifovich Gurevich (no relation as far as I know to chess GM Mikhail Naumovich Gurevich) was responsible for many of the famous MiG fighter planes.
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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by AustinElliott » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:26 am

Doesn't Britain have its own Armenian chess connection via Mike Basman? Did I read somewhere that his father was a Basmadjian, and that Mike had spent a couple of years living in Yerevan and even won the city championship? Or is that a chess urban legend?

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Richard James » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:35 am

AustinElliott wrote:Doesn't Britain have its own Armenian chess connection via Mike Basman? Did I read somewhere that his father was a Basmadjian, and that Mike had spent a couple of years living in Yerevan and even won the city championship? Or is that a chess urban legend?
You are correct, Austin.

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Re: The second most famous Armenian?

Post by Warren Kingston » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:51 pm

I think SOAD are brilliant.