London Chess Classic 2013

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Simon Brown
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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Simon Brown » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:41 am

I'll go for, in order

A - Anand, Adams
B - Kramnik, Sadler
C - Nakamura, Gelfand
D - Sutovsky, Short

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Paolo Casaschi
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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:51 am

It looks like we are playing the prediction game:
A) Anand, Istratescu
B) Kramnik, Svidler
C) Gelfand, Nakamura
D) Caruana, Sutovsky

What do I win?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by John Upham » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:33 am

Paolo Casaschi wrote: What do I win?
The chance to play 10 simultaneous correspondence games using postcards with Borislav Ivanov spanning the next five years using descriptive notation.
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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Simon Brown » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:54 am

Second prize 20 games.....

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Matthew Turner » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:16 pm

A - Anand Adams
B - Svidler Kramnik
C - Nakamura Gelfand
D - Caruana Short

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:24 pm

A - Anand Adams
B - Kramnik Svidler
C - Nakamura Gelfand
D - Caruana Short

I agree with Matthew, except I've put Kramnik to creep ahead of Svidler. Is anyone confident enough to predict an overall winner or expected finalists? Or failing that, which two players not paired in the group stages would you like to see play in the knock-out stages? I'd like to see an Anand-Kramnik match-up, and Adams-Caruana. A repeat of Anand-Gelfand, less so. Is the draw done again for the quarters, or do we know which group winners play the runners up of other groups?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Barry Sandercock » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:00 pm

Luke McShane winning nicely against Anand.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:17 pm

Barry Sandercock wrote:Luke McShane winning nicely against Anand.
Er... Luke lost. Was he ever winning (doesn't look like it to me) or is this just a mistaken assessment?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:44 pm

He probably was winning, but it was never easy. Maybe he should have played Rxd3 instead of Kf1 when black played ...d3+.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:03 pm

Chessbomb is saying 33.Bc4 (+1.05) instead of 33.Bxc6 (-0.5).

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:44 pm

Moves on the live games feed have frozen. Only way to follow games (with difficulty) is the video feed. :(

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Colin Patterson » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:10 pm

Is this likely to be a recurring problem with a rapid tournament? It seems obvious that the imprecise placement of pieces during a fast flurry of action will stuff up the live feed ... or am I worrying unnecessarily?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:17 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Barry Sandercock wrote:Luke McShane winning nicely against Anand.
Er... Luke lost. Was he ever winning (doesn't look like it to me) or is this just a mistaken assessment?
Watching live, Trent and King had a forced win with Luke playing c5 a move before he actually did i.e. instead of taking the rook with Q x a8
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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Simon Louchart » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:35 pm

Apparently McShane was clearly winning against Anand indeed.
But Anand then managed to recover in an amazing way, I must say. Something we would never see under classical time control (maybe for the best ?)
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Re: London Chess Classic 2013

Post by Michael Jones » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:19 pm

Today's live feed only kicked in about ten moves into most of the games. Interesting though it may be to play through two juniors competing to see who can leave most pieces en prise, I prefer to watch the GM games...

And it's now given up the ghost completely. Caruana and Howell have gone past 100 moves, but the board still shows the position at move 21!
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