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Ho-Hum

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:55 pm

I see we're now debarred from discussing a matter that's appeared in The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Metro, The London Evening Standard and so on, and so on ...... Possibly the postings of Paul Dupre who promises to splash other matters across the four corners of the earth hasn't helped.

So let's get on with important items such as http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=5821

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Neil Graham wrote:I see we're now debarred from discussing a matter that's appeared in The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Metro, The London Evening Standard and so on, and so on ....
For what it's worth, I share your disappointment. There was certainly one post that clearly needed to be binned, but the rest I thought was reasonable and even important.

At the same time, I understand the caution and perhaps a feeling of weariness at the prospect of having to pay very close attention to a thread just in case of something inappropriate being said.

Still, I do think there should be *somewhere* that this sort of thing can be discussed.

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:At the same time, I understand the caution and perhaps a feeling of weariness at the prospect of having to pay very close attention to a thread just in case of something inappropriate being said.
I was unsure but yes you are right, having received multiple complaints and not being home until Sunday I was a little short on options.
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Reason: Perhaps a prune would have been better?
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:33 pm

Neil Graham wrote:I see we're now debarred from discussing a matter that's appeared in The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Metro, The London Evening Standard and so on, and so on
I probably made a mistake on this one :oops:
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:50 pm

To be fair to Carl the articles in the Mail and Metro don't allow comments either, with the Mail citing 'legal reasons'. Potentially this is a story of interest/importance to the chess community so perhaps it is worth just having a link to the Daily Mail story without comments.

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:56 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:To be fair to Carl the articles in the Mail and Metro don't allow comments either, with the Mail citing 'legal reasons'. Potentially this is a story of interest/importance to the chess community so perhaps it is worth just having a link to the Daily Mail story without comments.
Thank you Matthew and Carl for your comments. It is unfortunate that what were personal comments were included in the previous thread.
I agree that a link to the story plus the statement issued should be on site. Perhaps the matter can then be locked - at least until we hear the outcome at the end of the month.

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:32 pm

Add it then please iPhone access is a bit limited.
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:47 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:Add it then please iPhone access is a bit limited.
Done - Daily Mail Story; Response

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ppers.html

http://www.ccfworld.com/response_to_media_stories.htm

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:54 pm

Neil Graham wrote: at least until we hear the outcome at the end of the month.
Rereading what was said in the articles, October was just the end of the police bail. Presumably then, either the whole matter is dropped, the bail is rolled forward or charges are announced. Perhaps the current publicity is a police ploy to see if there are any more complainants perhaps in connection with other persons and the religious beliefs alluded to in the articles.

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:11 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Neil Graham wrote: at least until we hear the outcome at the end of the month.
Rereading what was said in the articles, October was just the end of the police bail. Presumably then, either the whole matter is dropped, the bail is rolled forward or charges are announced. Perhaps the current publicity is a police ploy to see if there are any more complainants perhaps in connection with other persons and the religious beliefs alluded to in the articles.
Without wishing in disinter the whole of the last thread, this story was first published in the local newspaper as "exclusive". In these circumstances the local reporters often sell stories on to the national dailies. There have been several cases recently of police and public servants being dealt with for revealing confidential items for money to the press; the police will issue no official statement until after a court case. Bailing someone who has been arrested is a common occurrence whilst enquiries continue; at the end of October provided there isn't a further bailing, the CPS will make a decision either to charge or to take no further action as suggested above.

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Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:20 am

Neil Graham wrote: ... this story was first published in the local newspaper as "exclusive".
It was indeed so described.

However, it was a somewhat inaccurate claim, as the story appeared on the website of the other local newspaper on the preceding day.

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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:14 pm

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1) A person's arrest for an offence does not, in and of itself, mean he or she has committed that offence.
2) A person's arrest or conviction for an offence does not, in and of itself, mean his or her reputation can be impugned without consequence in other matters.
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Paul Dupré » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:06 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:1) A person's arrest for an offence does not, in and of itself, mean he or she has committed that offence.
You're so naive.
IM Jack Rudd wrote:2) A person's arrest or conviction for an offence does not, in and of itself, mean his or her reputation can be impugned without consequence in other matters.
Completely wrong, if he is found guilty. It won't be too soon.
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:08 pm

I am here again now.
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Re: Ho-Hum

Post by Paul Dupré » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:09 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:I am here again now.
So, what are you the US Government, trying to stop the truth about the fake moon landings getting out.
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