Chess not a sport in Norway

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Roger de Coverly
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Chess not a sport in Norway

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:48 pm

If the translations can be believed, the Norwegian chess federation are declining an invite to apply for sports recognition.
http://www.aftenposten.no/100Sport/sjak ... 7009_1.snd
and
http://www.aftenposten.no/100Sport/sjak ... 469422_1.s

The key point was that extremely restrictive rules would have been applied to the participation of young players in both national and international events. The net effect would have been that Carlsen and younger potential stars such as Aryan Tari would not have gained any experience against strong opposition.

Whilst I don't think UK rules on child participation are anything like as restrictive as Norwegian ones are claimed to be, it is an issue that advocates of Chess as a Sport should consider, namely that being a sport brings unwelcome baggage.

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Re: Chess not a sport in Norway

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:35 pm

While chess received support from the government, there were generally arguments against the advantages of chess being recognised by SportEngland. Now there is no downside of which I am aware.
Just take the matter of VAT and Roger's favourite form of taxation, ECF membership or, for that matter, game fee. That is liable to VAT at 20%. Were chess a sport, it would be zero.

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Re: Chess not a sport in Norway

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:57 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote: Now there is no downside of which I am aware.
FIDE seemed to have reduced anti-doping to play acting. But what if they or someone else started taking it seriously?

As for other downsides, the ECF has put itself in the hands of the Sport and Recreation Alliance. One of their requirements appears that you should appoint a non-Executive director who knows nothing of chess.

http://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/si ... ersion.pdf
Generally speaking to be truly ‘independent’ in our sector, the Board member should not be a participant, a previous participant or have held any roles involved within the sport, recreation or activity. Such individuals are often found from industry or other sectors completely unrelated to the activity or organisation.

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Re: Chess not a sport in Norway

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:21 pm

If you had a rule whereby you never associated with an organisation that had a ridiculous rule, the only way would be not to associate with anything at all.
The ECF is not 'in the hands' of the Sport and Recreation Alliance.

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Re: Chess not a sport in Norway

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:30 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote: The ECF is not 'in the hands' of the Sport and Recreation Alliance.
That depends on what actions they take. They have more influence on the affairs of the ECF on the 17th September, than they did on the 16th.

http://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/ne ... governance
The Sport and Recreation Alliance will be helping to recruit working party members.