Cheating in chess
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Another case reported: http://chess-results.com/tnr187532.aspx ... 984&snr=19
Radislav Yordanov Atanasov informs: In the 4th round of the tournament in the party a second table Ivaylo Enchev - Radi Danov, Ivaylo resigned , whereupon the judge requested verification of Radi Danov of his shoes . The latter refuses inspection, then the result is changed by judges Inkiov and Iliev in favor of ENCHEV and Danov was expelled from the tournament because of his refusal to be checked for using illegal means!
Source GM Artur Kogan on Facebook.
Radislav Yordanov Atanasov informs: In the 4th round of the tournament in the party a second table Ivaylo Enchev - Radi Danov, Ivaylo resigned , whereupon the judge requested verification of Radi Danov of his shoes . The latter refuses inspection, then the result is changed by judges Inkiov and Iliev in favor of ENCHEV and Danov was expelled from the tournament because of his refusal to be checked for using illegal means!
Source GM Artur Kogan on Facebook.
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I only just noticed that the 2010 board medals have been re-allocated minus Sebastien Feller: http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... edals.htmlNickFaulks wrote:After a flurry of activity last year, I don't really know what the Anti-Cheating Commission has been doing. I hope to learn something at the Congress, although they have not submitted an agenda for their meeting.
Sebastien Feller is back, and was allowed to retain his rating from before the ban, which looks controversial to me.
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The guy who caught caught cheating in Dubai (hidden phone in the toilet) has had a three year ban and his GM title stripped from him. He has been allowed to keep his IM title due to his cooperation and remorseful behavior apparently. No doubt Azmai put in a word for him. Is this a just punishment? I honestly am not sure he's really got what he deserved but maybe I'm being too harsh?
http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... lidze.html
http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... lidze.html
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The three year ban is the maximum sanction for the first (detected) offence. I suppose FIDE , its ACC or its Ethics Commission has the power to strip titles, but is this properly documented? Feller retained his.Chris Rice wrote: Is this a just punishment? I honestly am not sure he's really got what he deserved but maybe I'm being too harsh?
I note that they are silent about previous offending. The implication being that it was the first time he took it into his head to conceal a device to be consulted during play. Perhaps it was the influence of the Georgian President of ECU that meant no investigation was published into his previous play, given that he had been champion of Georgia.
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I wish i could download a chess grandmaster program straigh into my brain therefore making me as strong as the engine.
I would overnight become the best player in the world. I'm sure i could act like i was thinking about moves in long games
Would be great to shake young Magnus's hand after he reigned yet again. I think i'd have to throw in the occasional draw or make a blunder. I'd be in real trouble if it crashed or got a virus. Think i'd have to fake an accident involving a bang on the head and claim to have lost my memory haha
I would overnight become the best player in the world. I'm sure i could act like i was thinking about moves in long games
Would be great to shake young Magnus's hand after he reigned yet again. I think i'd have to throw in the occasional draw or make a blunder. I'd be in real trouble if it crashed or got a virus. Think i'd have to fake an accident involving a bang on the head and claim to have lost my memory haha
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Isn't wearing glasses a form of cheating in chess?
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No. Messages in the bottom of a glass? Yes
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Chris Rice wrote:The guy who caught caught cheating in Dubai (hidden phone in the toilet) has had a three year ban and his GM title stripped from him. He has been allowed to keep his IM title due to his cooperation and remorseful behavior apparently.
The article on the FIDE website refers to Nigalidze having been stripped of his GM title "on the basis of unworthiness".Roger de Coverly wrote:I note that they are silent about previous offending. The implication being that it was the first time he took it into his head to conceal a device to be consulted during play.
The inference which I draw is that the Ethics Commission believed his earlier IM title to have been obtained honestly, but suspected that his GM title might not have been.
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But someone wearing glasses can see the board more clearly than they normally would and is thus gaining an unfair advantage.Nick Grey wrote:No. Messages in the bottom of a glass? Yes
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I think in that situation, playing against Carlsen, I would drink steadily throughout the game, becoming gradually more and more incapable to the point where I could barely stand on my own two feet, yet all the time playing flawless chess and beating him convincingly! The look on his face as he resigned or got mated would be interesting!Kevin O'Rourke wrote:I wish i could download a chess grandmaster program straigh into my brain therefore making me as strong as the engine.
I would overnight become the best player in the world. I'm sure i could act like i was thinking about moves in long games
Would be great to shake young Magnus's hand after he reigned yet again. I think i'd have to throw in the occasional draw or make a blunder. I'd be in real trouble if it crashed or got a virus. Think i'd have to fake an accident involving a bang on the head and claim to have lost my memory haha
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Glasses & sportsmen: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Edgar Davids, Dennis Taylor, Nigel Short ...
Not sure why you are against a reasonable adjustment in any line of work, sport or game. It will be discriminatory not to.
Am I allowed to have a cup of coffee or a beer whilst pondering my next chess move?
Not sure why you are against a reasonable adjustment in any line of work, sport or game. It will be discriminatory not to.
Am I allowed to have a cup of coffee or a beer whilst pondering my next chess move?
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>I wish i could download a chess grandmaster program straight into my brain therefore making me as strong as the engine.<
I think this century it will happen that it will become possible to download a computer into the brain. It wouldn't have to be a solely chess one.
The only likely obstacle is that it may be carcinogenic.
I think that will be the end of chess. A correspondence player I met on my current cruise disagrees. He believes a computer can only take a player so far.
Of course wearing glasses is not taking an unfair advantage. Nor is having a stick to enable you to get about. Nor special sets for blind players.
But is taking drugs in physical sports such as athletics or cycling? It is against the rules, but why? One is because they harm the body. But if a player wants to do that, why not let them?
I wonder also whether it will become possible to download the essence of a human being into a computer, thus rendering the person, in a sense, immortal.
Who would have thought 30 years ago that I could speculate in this manner after having visited Cape Horn this morning?
I think this century it will happen that it will become possible to download a computer into the brain. It wouldn't have to be a solely chess one.
The only likely obstacle is that it may be carcinogenic.
I think that will be the end of chess. A correspondence player I met on my current cruise disagrees. He believes a computer can only take a player so far.
Of course wearing glasses is not taking an unfair advantage. Nor is having a stick to enable you to get about. Nor special sets for blind players.
But is taking drugs in physical sports such as athletics or cycling? It is against the rules, but why? One is because they harm the body. But if a player wants to do that, why not let them?
I wonder also whether it will become possible to download the essence of a human being into a computer, thus rendering the person, in a sense, immortal.
Who would have thought 30 years ago that I could speculate in this manner after having visited Cape Horn this morning?
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One good reason is that others (particularly young ambitious types who don't know any better) may feel compelled to take drugs to avoid getting 'left behind'. So the rule is there, to some extent, to protect people from themselves.Stewart Reuben wrote: But is taking drugs in physical sports such as athletics or cycling? It is against the rules, but why? One is because they harm the body. But if a player wants to do that, why not let them?
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Reg. I am, of course aware of that view. Indeed I discourage consumption of alcohol while playing chess on the basis that it may encourage youngsters also to do so.
But we should not simply, unthinkingly, accept such rules as being immutable.
But we should not simply, unthinkingly, accept such rules as being immutable.
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That is a different issue. I doubt that junior players see their opponent drinking a pint and think "that's why he's playing better moves than me". They are more likely to hope that he has a couple more.Stewart Reuben wrote:Indeed I discourage consumption of alcohol while playing chess on the basis that it may encourage youngsters also to do so.
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