Chess in schools

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soheil_hooshdaran
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Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:53 pm

Hi.
How much is chess taught at school and universities around the globe?

John McKenna

Re: Chess in schools

Post by John McKenna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:14 pm

Google - How much is chess taught at school and universities around the globe?

About 44,600,000 results with this top -
http://www.kcfe.eu/sites/default/files/ ... h_KCFE.pdf

Bing - How much is chess taught at school and universities around the globe?

27,700 results with this top -
http://listverse.com/2013/04/20/10-subj ... at-school/

The results show that your question is, as usual, probably too "woolly".
Of course, hidden in the above there may be a study with a definitive answer.

How many results are you expecting from this forum?

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:20 pm

John McKenna wrote: The results show that your question is, as usual, probably too "woolly".
Of course, hidden in the above there may be a study with a definitive answer.

How many results are you expecting from this forum?
What do you mean my question are too woolly?

John McKenna

Re: Chess in schools

Post by John McKenna » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:51 pm

From a dictionary -

woolly
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: vague or confused in expression or character

E.g. "woolly thinking"

synonyms: vague · ill-defined · hazy · unclear · unfocused · fuzzy

Like the raw wool of a sheep, which usually has to be processed before it can be useful.
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Re: Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:55 pm

So you don't mean superficial?

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by John McKenna » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:06 pm

Artificial would be more appropriate.

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:16 pm

Why Artificial?
What does it have to do with arts?

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:53 pm

Another way of putting it might be "not clear or specific enough"?
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

John McKenna

Re: Chess in schools

Post by John McKenna » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:39 pm

Precisely, Matt, and now he's being too shallow ('superficial').

Look below the surface in a dictionary -
Artificial - lacking in natural quality; affected, imitation, sham

He should leave "Chess in Schools" and return to his "The English Language" topic.

Unless, of course, he wishes to discuss the specifics of contents of the two links I gave in my first reply, above.

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:18 pm

You could have at least say how much is chess taught at schools in the UK, instead of talking this way.

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:30 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:You could have at least say how much is chess taught at schools in the UK, instead of talking this way.
http://www.chessinschools.co.uk/ will give you an idea.

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by Chris Bernard » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:46 pm

Many but by no means all schools here in Bromley run a chess club.

In my daughters school they have chess club for half an hour a week with local GM Chris Ward .....and she's chosen netball instead !

I know what you're thinking -" you can take a horse to water..."

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:20 pm

They run chess clubs?
Here in Shiraz university, they hold a chess class, possibly in their sports hour, and their professor is not the local GM GM Abbasifar

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by PeterFarr » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:34 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:They run chess clubs?
Here in Shiraz university, they hold a chess class, possibly in their sports hour, and their professor is not the local GM GM Abbasifar
Would that be the same "GM" Abbasifar that obtained all of his GM norms in tournaments run by Vladimir Afromeev in Tula Province, Russia? If so then it's a very good thing if he is not the chess teacher.

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Re: Chess in schools

Post by Stewart Reuben » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:37 pm

Soheil: in Britain
a substantial amount of chess is taught in schools ar 'primary school level', that is for players U11. David Sedgwick, above, pointed you toawrds some of that.
Much less chess in taught at 'secondary school level, that is for people 11-18.
There is no regular teaching of chess at university level.
Much of chess in Britain is played in chess clubs. These are mainly organisations playing matches against teams from other club.
Most of the rest is played in individual chess tournaments. Again there is little formal chess education.

I think this pattern coincides globally, with some variation.

The UK Chess Challenge is an event to be considered. It is arranged initially at local local level. This then proceeds by stages until a grand finale. It has attracted 70,000 entrants, is expensive financially and in terms of administrative time.