Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:40 pm

Karjakin reported by Chessvibes as playing in Bilbao 13-23 July and will meet Carlsen twice
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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:13 pm

To answer the thread question - because no one really thinks Karjakin is the second strongest palyer in the world, though he might be one of the two toughest; and because the event is five months away?

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:10 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:To answer the thread question - because no one really thinks Karjakin is the second strongest palyer in the world.
Maybe Carlsen should follow Kasparov's example and pick the best challenger, fixing the clear issue with the qualification process that failed to produce the desired result. This would make the match more interesting to chess fans and likely to sponsors in NY as well.
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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Barry Sandercock » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:51 am

Karjakin may surprise everyone, but I think it is unlikely. Magnus is the greatest ! (like Ali)

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:25 am

Paolo Casaschi wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:To answer the thread question - because no one really thinks Karjakin is the second strongest palyer in the world.
Maybe Carlsen should follow Kasparov's example and pick the best challenger, fixing the clear issue with the qualification process that failed to produce the desired result. This would make the match more interesting to chess fans and likely to sponsors in NY as well.
:wink:
It always seemed to me that Kasparov did not get enough credit for doing just that. Sure, he probably expected he would rise to the occasion and see off the challenge from Kramnik, but he was under no illusion that Kramnik was his most dangerous opponent, notwithstanding his dreadful results in match play against others.

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by MJMcCready » Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:23 pm

It's a nice idea but who would Carlsen choose?

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:55 pm

MJMcCready wrote:It's a nice idea but who would Carlsen choose?
Probably Caruana, in order to please American sponsors. In that case we'd probably get both a match in New York (Carlsen/Caruana) and a match somewhere in Russia (Karjakin/Anand): everybody currently discussing the next world championship location would actually be right!

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:04 pm

MJMcCready wrote:It's a nice idea but who would Carlsen choose?
I wasn't actually proposing it! - I was just offering one take on why Carlsen v Karjakin fever is not yet upon us.

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by MJMcCready » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:51 pm

Well if I were Magnus, I'd choose Kasparov.

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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:45 pm

MJMcCready wrote:It's a nice idea but who would Carlsen choose?
Kramnik, as Kasparov did
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Re: Why can't I get excited about Carlsen Karjakin?

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:54 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
MJMcCready wrote:It's a nice idea but who would Carlsen choose?
Kramnik, as Kasparov did
But this time, Carlsen would put in a rematch clause.
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