4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Discuss anything you like about chess related matters in this forum.
NickFaulks
Posts: 8472
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:54 pm

I really ought to let Tim Harding answer this, but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Ga ... _Variation

In the second position, the white knight on a8 is doomed. If it could hide away safely and reappear in the ending, White would be winning very easily.
Last edited by NickFaulks on Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.

Kevin O'Rourke
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:01 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by Kevin O'Rourke » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:57 pm

yesss.. found a use for my idea

Roger de Coverly
Posts: 21320
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Kevin O'Rourke wrote: What is that?
It's a line of the Vienna where non forced play starts at move 11. Engines usually like White, but there are few recent over the board examples.


The name was coined by Tim Harding of this forum many years ago for a magazine piece.



5. Qxe5 or 5. Bb3 Be7 can be played by those wanting to avoid it.

John Moore
Posts: 2226
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 6:33 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by John Moore » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:34 pm

There is a horrible book on the Frankenstein-Dracula variation by, you guessed it, Eric Schiller. The cover is, itself, rather unpleasant but I don't suppose that was Mr Schiller's fault. What was his fault was to decide that it would be a good idea to "sprinkle" excerpts from Dracula and Frankenstein throughout his opus.

"Merciful God, let me be calm, for out of that way lies madness indeed."

Kevin Thurlow
Posts: 5835
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:32 am

"Merciful God, let me be calm, for out of that way lies madness indeed."

Surely, everyone says that in time-scrambles?

Paul McKeown
Posts: 3735
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:01 pm
Location: Hayes (Middx)

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by Paul McKeown » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:23 pm

Kevin O'Rourke wrote:Imagine 4 extra squares beyond each corner that can only be reached by a Knight. After the Knight lands on A1 it can move off the board to secret square where it now attacks A1. It would be rarely used and might be a bit whacky, but do you think it could catch on. An extra super power for the steed. Applies to all 4 corners. :lol:
Kevin - I think it is a very fine idea, and I would certainly be willing to give it a go. It would certainly change the balance of strength between the bishop and the knight, and it would change the valuation of many endgames, e.g. KN -v- Kp(r7) would be a draw if the knight managed to get to the queening square.

Kevin O'Rourke
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:01 pm

Re: 4 Extra squares to be added to the chess board. Knights only

Post by Kevin O'Rourke » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:29 pm

Yes.. more power the steed. I’ve said before the Knight is unique in the way it moves and once you’ve lost them both you can never again move a piece that way (underpromtion aside)