Would an underpromotion have saved me here.. move 42

Kevin O'Rourke · Post by **Kevin O'Rourke** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:49 am

Hi all. I didn't finish this game well and it makes it worse that it was a correspondant game so i had 3 days to make a move. However, i think i bottled an underpromotion on move 42 that may have saved the game.

They don't come up very often and I think i greedily held onto the 7th rank pawn hoping to make it a queen (and at least win a rook)

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 Nbd7 8. f4 Nc5 9. f5 Be7 10. Qf3 O-O 11. Be3 Bd7 12. O-O b5 13. a3 e5 14. Nde2 Nxb3 15. cxb3 a5 16. Rfd1 Bc6 17. Rac1 b4 18. Nd5 Bxd5 19. exd5 Qd7 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rc4 Qb5 22. g4 Ra5 23. g5 Nxd5 24. f6 Bd8 25. fxg7 Kxg7 26. Qh5 Bb6 27. Qh6+ Kg8 28. Rh4 Bxe3+ 29. Kf1 Rfa8 30. Qxh7+ Kf8 31. g6 Qe8 32. g7+ Ke7 33. Qe4 Ra1 34. Qxd5 Rxd1+ 35. Qxd1 Qc6 36. Ng1 Qh1 37. Rg4 Qxh2 38. Rg2 Qf4+ 39. Ke2 Rg8 40. Qd3 Bd4 41. Qh7 Rc8 42. Qd3 e4 43. Qb1 Bxg1 44. Rxg1 Qf3+ 45. Ke1 Qe3+ 46. Kf1 Rc1+ 47. Qxc1 Qxc1+ 48. Kg2 Qd2+ 49. Kg3 Qg5+ 50. Kh2 Qh6+ White resigns 0-1(

Roger de Coverly · Post by **Roger de Coverly** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:15 am

Kevin O'Rourke wrote: However, i think i bottled an underpromotion on move 42 that may have saved the game.

You mean g8=N check, gaining a vital tempo if he takes it. I suspect it's the only decent move, although whether winning for you would require some analysis.

Kevin O'Rourke · Post by **Kevin O'Rourke** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:28 am

Since I lost I would have been happy with a draw if the extra piece can save me.

My computer still thinks black is winning but it depends if my opponant would have found the moves

NickFaulks · Post by **NickFaulks** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:37 am

I don't see how throwing in 42.g8=N+, Kd8 helps at all. The black rook is now free to join the mating attack.

Christopher Kreuzer · Post by **Christopher Kreuzer** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:40 am

What about 48.Kf2 instead of 48.Kg2?

LawrenceCooper · Post by **LawrenceCooper** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:47 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:What about 48.Kf2 instead of 48.Kg2?

Doesn't that transpose after 48....Qd2+?

Christopher Kreuzer · Post by **Christopher Kreuzer** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:58 am

Oops. Loz is quite right.

LawrenceCooper · Post by **LawrenceCooper** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:04 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Oops. Loz is quite right.

50 Kf2 was worth trying though as black has to work a bit harder for the point there.

Kevin O'Rourke · Post by **Kevin O'Rourke** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:10 pm

I think move 42 was the only time the pawn could be pushed forward and it had to be a knight at that point otherwise it’s mate. Frustrating that there doesn’t seem to be a way to get the pawn home (either as a queen or as a knight but with better prospects i.e. having extra minor piece)

I had banked on this pawn becoming at least a knight and trying to make the best use of this surprise tempo. Also remember my opponent may not have been seriously considering the under promotion.

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