What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by David Robertson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:31 pm

Michael Yeo wrote:Thus it was that we sat down to conclude this game at midnight. At 2.15 am my opponent rather oddly enquired "Shall we go to bed?" I ascertained that this was in fact his way of illegally offering a draw before explaining that my wife was asleep upstairs and thanks to him hadn't seen much of me all week....It was some years before I persuaded my wife to come on holiday with me to a chess tournament again.
Be lucky your wife didn't conclude she'd ended up with a stale mate, and knocked your bishop on the head.

But never mind that. There's important detail missing here. It's turned midnight. Dinner was some hours earlier; breakfast, many hours further off too. The tuck shop is closed. The bar is closed. So given all that, how many Arbiters were present when the illegal draw offer was made?

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Post by Ian Thompson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:55 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Wow, that game length of 13 hours and 20 minutes must be up there among the longest games.
Makes my longest ever game (in terms of time taken) look rather mundane:
Thompson-Littlewood, J
1981 British Championship
116 moves
11 hours 20 minutes playing time
Adjourned 4 times (and agreed drawn without resuming after the last sealed move according to my notes)

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by Michael Yeo » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:12 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Michael Yeo wrote:Thus it was that we sat down to conclude this game at midnight. At 2.15 am my opponent rather oddly enquired "Shall we go to bed?" I ascertained that this was in fact his way of illegally offering a draw before explaining that my wife was asleep upstairs and thanks to him hadn't seen much of me all week....It was some years before I persuaded my wife to come on holiday with me to a chess tournament again.
Be lucky your wife didn't conclude she'd ended up with a stale mate, and knocked your bishop on the head.

But never mind that. There's important detail missing here. It's turned midnight. Dinner was some hours earlier; breakfast, many hours further off too. The tuck shop is closed. The bar is closed. So given all that, how many Arbiters were present when the illegal draw offer was made?

Stewart Reuben was still in attendance, albeit a bit grumpy.

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by David Robertson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:06 pm

Michael Yeo wrote:Stewart Reuben was still in attendance, albeit a bit grumpy.
So, situation normal; then all tucked up

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by Jon Tait » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:08 am

55 moves, most of which were just shuffling about...

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Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:31 am

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Anybody beat that, then?
! No, Yeo v Bellin does look hard to beat, but I wonder whether Miles v Brian Kelly, British 1998, might come close? I cannot find the game online but Miles gave the game (thankfully, just the end!) in his article on the event in CHESS ("I wouldn't want to launch a premature attack, now, would I?"). A memorable article, which he finished by noting that his marathon win over Short in the last round was his quickest win of the event!

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Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:00 pm

oh, pawn exchange on move 16 then (!) though no further pawn captures until move 125. Thanks, Chris.

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:18 pm

No pawn captures in this game today:

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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by David Sedgwick » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:41 pm

In Rybka v Nakamura 2008, all 16 pawns were on the board until move 174.

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Post by NickFaulks » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:30 pm

It's a shame the word "incredible" is so ( incredibly ) overused, because just occasionally....

3 0 time control, Black wins in 271 moves with six underpromotions. There's nothing to say.
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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:48 pm

The underpromotions were silly, but if you read the comments you will see what was going on (Nakamura losing games during the 'match' to find out what the computer settings were, and then exploiting a 'contempt' setting where the computer gives up material rather than draw by three-fold repetition).

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Post by NickFaulks » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:14 pm

I was more impressed by the manual dexterity.
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Re: What’s the longest you’ve played with 16 pawns still on the board?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:20 pm

Oh, my mistake. I missed that you were *actually* impressed. I assumed a default setting of cynicism was on somewhere...

(0.664 seconds per move, depending how much time was left at the end)