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Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:44 pm
by Paul Stimpson
All this CRB stuff has been quite interesting but seems to be totally irrelevant in many ways. For instance:

1. The ECF require a CRB Check.

This is fine but what does this effectively mean? It's of no use to go into a School because they will require, quite rightly and by Law to do their own check.

And if you are already working in a School and thinking of taking up the Assistant Coach Qualification then isn't it bizarre to ask that person to undergo a CRB check again for the sake of setting up a club within an establishment they are already working in and cleared to be at?

2. The ECF don't require a CRB check

The ECF test the person online to see if they are up to the standard required to teach beginning players the game. No mention of being suitable to do the job, but competent to do the job. Since this project is dealing with Schools only, let them (Since it is their legal requirement in any case) deal with the suitability of the person to be running the School club.

I really don't see how this can ever be the ECF's responsibility. To be honest the ECF should be taking more of an interest in Junior clubs and Adult clubs with junior memberships and making sure those are run correctly with CRB checks, rather than Schools who are already tightly controlled by legislation.

Wasn't all this already investigated by Charles Wood and his route into Schools through the Extended Schools Programme, has all this work been thrown out the door?

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:48 pm
by Louise Sinclair
Yeah right I'm sure poor Brian Eley is just a misunderstood individual who is being unfairly spoken of on the internet. Funny that he jumped bail prior to the Web being in general usage :lol: . I guess besides being a creep the man is also psychic.
Louise

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:55 pm
by Gary Cook
Matthew
I am sure that after the comments on this forum we can shortly expect Mr Eley to return to these shores and proclaim his innocence on a technicality :roll:
Gary

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:32 pm
by andrew martin
Debate is valuable at all times.

I suppose we are all really waiting for news of the meeting yesterday before being able to comment further sensibly.

How long will that take to come through?

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:35 pm
by Carl Hibbard
andrew martin wrote:Debate is valuable at all times.

I suppose we are all really waiting for news of the meeting yesterday before being able to comment further sensibly.

How long will that take to come through?
I will be surprised if any comment is made until next year now :?

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:23 pm
by David Robertson
I doubt there will be any comment soon, certainly not if bad news is involved. ECF officials are like new-born puppies when it comes to good news. But bad news, sorry chaps, you'll just have to wait....and wait.....and wait.

Of course, you know why. Nothing - and I mean nothing - happens at ECF unless David Anderton says so. Gerry doesn't get to wipe his, ahem, feet until Anderton gives him the nod. And we know from his actions at the last Board meeting how Anderton regards open communication with the membership.

So expect the usual prevarication, arrogant obfuscation and general dithering that you might expect from a fusty provincial solicitor.

David
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Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:46 pm
by Carl Hibbard
Let me have a random :wink: guess - there are now several hundred sets but currently no boards

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:01 pm
by andrew martin
David Anderton starred as the Poliz Chief on the video.

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:31 pm
by David Robertson
Ernie Lazenby wrote:So David are you saying that David Anderton runs the ECF?
"Runs" is not quite how I'd choose to describe it. Bumbles, stumbles even. Or, since you ask Ernie, plods :)

Think George 'Dubya' Bush & Dick Cheney. Every duffer needs his buffer, the US & ECF both.

David
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Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:41 pm
by Neill Cooper
Carl Hibbard wrote:Let me have a random :wink: guess - there are now several hundred sets but currently no boards
I'd take them! I have some spare boards and the 6th form want more sets for their common room.

Re: Coaching

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:09 pm
by David Robertson
Nooo, silly. They asked for more sex

David
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Re: Coaching

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:51 pm
by Simon Spivack
Ernie Lazenby wrote: * I could tell you how easy it is to get another identity but on an open forum I best not.
Alternatively, read a quality daily, hint: every so often Frederick Forsyth writes in to complain.
Ernie Lazenby wrote: ( ID cards would help prevent that but thats another issue)
Why is this off topic opinion presented as fact? One may as well commend A Modest Proposal!

There is too much hysteria. Who can recall the time when Rebecca Wade edited the News of the World?

Re: Coaching

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:06 pm
by David Robertson
John Walker? Never heard of him. But he is renowned, now :roll:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Things-You-Need ... 264&sr=1-1

Rebecca Wade? Heard of her. She let the mob loose. They lynched a pediatrician :( Absolutely scandless! (sic)

ID cards? A complete waste of space. Anyone motivated to create a fresh identity could create a fresh ID card - complete with biometrics and photo.

David
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Re: Coaching

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:45 pm
by Louise Sinclair
Namby pamby do nothings are prevalent in the world of chess. See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil governs their actions and motivations.
Louise

Re: Coaching

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:23 pm
by Carl Hibbard
Ben Purton wrote:Anyone know what happened to ****************************, one of the biggest junior clubs in UK.

Ben
How is this relevant to this particular topic then Ben since it is suggestive relevant to other posts?