The British itself!

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Jonathan Bryant
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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:10 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Should Williams go for a win, or would he be happy with a draw as well.

'Playing for a draw' is not really a phrase you associate with Simon Williams. Even if it was, if he wants to win the tournament he’s really got to go for it.


Somebody should do one of those spread betting things for how far ahead on the clock Jack Rudd gets against David Howell. 90 minutes not out of the question. 2 hours a possibility if things go well.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:'Playing for a draw' is not really a phrase you associate with Simon Williams. Even if it was, if he wants to win the tournament he’s really got to go for it.
I disagree (though I agree Williams is unlikely to ever play cautiously over the board, especially not with White). Hawkins has yet to play the other GMs in the field, while Williams has defeated the top seed. Williams could draw today and still draw ahead over the final rounds. The question may be whether Hawkins has something prepared for Williams, or whether it will get messy early on.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:35 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Jonathan Bryant wrote:'Playing for a draw' is not really a phrase you associate with Simon Williams. Even if it was, if he wants to win the tournament he’s really got to go for it.
I disagree (though I agree Williams is unlikely to ever play cautiously over the board, especially not with White). Hawkins has yet to play the other GMs in the field, while Williams has defeated the top seed. Williams could draw today and still draw ahead over the final rounds. The question may be whether Hawkins has something prepared for Williams, or whether it will get messy early on.
I agree that’s possible, but I would suggest it’s not the mindset of somebody who’s serious about maximising their chances of winning the tournament.

Another side bet opportunity for Rudd - Howell: will Jack play the whole game in less time that it takes his opponent to make his first move?

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:42 pm

Does Howell always start late too?
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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:43 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:Does Howell always start late too?
Seems to. Although it could just be when I’m watching. In my mental filing system I have him next to Peter Wells in the folder marked "Usually ends up in time trouble so why turn up late as well?"

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Re: The British itself!

Post by benedgell » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:48 pm

Think Keith Arkell's reached this type of position in the QGD more times then I've played chess! And probably won it more times to boot.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:58 pm

benedgell wrote:Think Keith Arkell's reached this type of position in the QGD more times then I've played chess! And probably won it more times to boot.
Indeed. I lost in a very similar line against Keith in Penarth last year. I’d say it was very unwise to head into it, regardless of the objective evaluation of the position, except ...

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1725663

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Re: The British itself!

Post by benedgell » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:55 pm

Jack's barely an hour up after 21 moves. Slow going.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Simon Cage » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:04 pm

It's not looking like the best of positions for him, though.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Simon Brown » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:11 pm

Not going to last much longer I guess

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:15 pm

Williams-Hawkins looks level-ish (according to the Chessdom engines). Not sure if either player can risk much there, both tied to the kingside.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:45 pm

37.Rc1 was strange. No real time pressure. Did Williams miss that 37...Qxf4 protected c7?

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Peter D Williams » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:57 pm

Yang-Fan looks to be winning :D

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Re: The British itself!

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:05 pm

Hawkins has 20 minutes to find 40...Qe5 (threatening Rxh3+ with mate). Some nice tactics there.

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Re: The British itself!

Post by benedgell » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:07 pm

I think Bb5 probably is pretty decent for black as well.