We shall have to wait and see, but at least one of the obstacles will have been removed.David Blower wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:10 amAm I right in thinking that the typical rated restricted congress that I may enter (I am 1550 rated) will now be FIDE rated as well as ECF rated.
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The draft AGM minutes are available:
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... of-AGM.pdf
There are also minutes for Board meeting 157 held on 26 October:
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... h-2023.pdf
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... of-AGM.pdf
There are also minutes for Board meeting 157 held on 26 October:
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... h-2023.pdf
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Those that have notional four hour sessions, the 90 30 move rate for instance, may well choose to do so. Those with shorter sessions, say 75 30, 90 15 and variations on that theme may well not do so.David Blower wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:10 amAm I right in thinking that the typical rated restricted congress that I may enter (I am 1550 rated) will now be FIDE rated as well as ECF rated.
If they did want to go FIDE rated, they have a choice to make.
They can adopt a 90 30 move rate which makes for a very long day if they have three rounds on the Saturday.
They can cease to be Open by banning players FIDE rated above 2400
They can tell players that games where one player is rated above 2400 will not be FIDE rated.
They can adopt different playing sessions and move rates for the Open and the rest.
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These reveal that the Director of Events has resigned and her responsibilities allocated elsewhere. The spare Director's slot has been filled by appointing another non-Exec, the narrowly defeated candidate in the October election.John Swain wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:15 amThere are also minutes for Board meeting 156 held on 26 October:
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Given that the question related specifically to rating restricted congresses, that would seem the obvious solution.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:41 amThey can cease to be Open by banning players FIDE rated above 2400David Blower wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:10 amAm I right in thinking that the typical rated restricted congress that I may enter (I am 1550 rated) will now be FIDE rated as well as ECF rated.
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Sorry for asking what may seem like obvious questions, butRoger de Coverly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:41 amThose that have notional four hour sessions, the 90 30 move rate for instance, may well choose to do so. Those with shorter sessions, say 75 30, 90 15 and variations on that theme may well not do so.David Blower wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:10 amAm I right in thinking that the typical rated restricted congress that I may enter (I am 1550 rated) will now be FIDE rated as well as ECF rated.
If they did want to go FIDE rated, they have a choice to make.
They can adopt a 90 30 move rate which makes for a very long day if they have three rounds on the Saturday.
They can cease to be Open by banning players FIDE rated above 2400
They can tell players that games where one player is rated above 2400 will not be FIDE rated.
They can adopt different playing sessions and move rates for the Open and the rest.
1) What is the significance of a 4 hour playing session?
2) What is the significance of a 2400 rating?
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A game in which at least one player is rated 2400 or over can only be FIDE standardplay-rated if the time allowed to reach move 60 is at least two hours per player.
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The ECF has or had a rule about qualification for the British Championship that it ran a Grand Prix whereby potential qualifiers had to score points in "Open" tournaments, where Open meant an absence of rating restrictions. Pubilicity for this is scarce, so what the rule is for qualification for the 2024 British isn't known. Or if it is, I haven't come across it. That doesn't affect under 1600 tournaments which is what the OP was asking, but quite sensibly organisers are adverse to starting times varying between sections.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:24 pmGiven that the question related specifically to rating restricted congresses, that would seem the obvious solution.
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Draft minutes for Board Meeting No. 158, conducted via Zoom on Wednesday 13 December 2023, may be found at:
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... r-2023.pdf
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... r-2023.pdf
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AL had a lot to say for someone that appears not to have benn there...
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Of interest is the proposal for clubs of a certain (unspecified) size to apply for membership of council. I'll look forward to hearing more about this one as it could have a significant impact on the composition of council.
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Which could in turn have a significant impact on... what?Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:43 pmI'll look forward to hearing more about this one as it could have a significant impact on the composition of council.
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From time to time, the ECF Council are allowed to vote on the direction of the ECF. Sometimes that takes the form of a contested election for directors, even when the opposition candidate is "none of the above". On other issues I suspect they are more likely to get a meaningful vote when the Board is divided.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:21 pmWhich could in turn have a significant impact on... what?
If clubs were giving voting rights at the expense of counties and leagues, it only makes a marginal difference. If club votes are in addition to those of counties and leagues, that would appear to take relative voting power away from Congress organisers.
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Clubs tend to have more direct democracy than leagues and county associations and often more turnover of officers. This will in turn potentially see more delegates going to council with different ideas and perspectives.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:21 pmWhich could in turn have a significant impact on... what?Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:43 pmI'll look forward to hearing more about this one as it could have a significant impact on the composition of council.
A lot will depend on what the bar is for a club joining (I'm guessing it will be based on rated games in internal competitions although there are other ways it could be measured) and how the size of council increases as a result. If every club of a reasonable size can join they would surely become the largest interest bloc overnight.
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Would it not be just as likely that the collectors of proxies would have a field day?Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:49 pmThis will in turn potentially see more delegates going to council with different ideas and perspectives.