ECF AGM 2022
-
- Posts: 1295
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:12 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I'm a Facebook group member but can't see these posts although I can see posts by James, Nevols, Skettos and others. Any suggestions?
-
- Posts: 1917
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:44 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I'm yet another with just one vote who didn't receive this. However I can't really see what the fuss is about - in any election, people are going to make extravagant claims for their preferred candidate(s). And, if for example Tim Wall can urge everyone to support Tim Wall (which, as far as I'm concerned, he is perfectly entitled to do) then I don't see why ECF directors, chief executive included, should be muzzled.John Upham wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:53 pmMy understanding is that the CEO personally sent the email to a select band of those who might have been sympathetic to the message which is almost certainly the reason I did not receive it.Alex McFarlane wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:32 pmI have a vote on Council and I didn't get it.
I do not believe that it was sent out via the ECF office.
In any case, I only hold one vote so I am very low on the ECF Council food chain. Clearly lobbying the holders of block votes is the best tactical approach.
-
- Posts: 1057
- Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I am perhaps one of Tim's "inward-looking and resistant to change" local officials, but if I were standing in an election and were also responsible for casting six votes in that election, I would say to my constituents "since I am standing in this election, please email the other rep about it, who will cast the six votes without my knowledge".
Donate to Sabrina's fundraiser at https://gofund.me/aeae42c7 to support victims of sexual abuse in the chess world.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
-
- Posts: 2069
- Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:28 pm
- Location: Morecambe, Europe
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I have to admit that in this situation the letter from the silver reps once read (roughly)
Michael Farthing is standing to be a member of the Governance Committee. Michael will be voting in favour and John better had do. [At the time, in minor mitigation, the reps had only 1 vote each].
Michael Farthing is standing to be a member of the Governance Committee. Michael will be voting in favour and John better had do. [At the time, in minor mitigation, the reps had only 1 vote each].
-
- Posts: 684
- Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: Manchester
Re: ECF AGM 2022
lolMichael Farthing wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:34 pmI have to admit that in this situation the letter from the silver reps once read (roughly)
Michael Farthing is standing to be a member of the Governance Committee. Michael will be voting in favour and John better had do. [At the time, in minor mitigation, the reps had only 1 vote each].
i always feel the the member have their said and always vote their way, not your own personal views.
Any postings on here represent my personal views only and also Dyslexia as well
-
- Posts: 1057
- Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I think most people would accept that a single eminent official's honest opinion can sway a single vote. That's the same voting power as a Board member. When you have six votes, you have to consult, and if the constituents are indifferent then your job is to reflect their indifference by splitting the votes 3-3 (or 3-2 for your preferred candidate, if you must).
Donate to Sabrina's fundraiser at https://gofund.me/aeae42c7 to support victims of sexual abuse in the chess world.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
-
- Posts: 7234
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:29 am
- Location: Cove, Hampshire, England.
Re: ECF AGM 2022
I've stupidly managed to mis-lay the Zoom URL for the AGM.
Could a kind person please pm it to me?
I am the delegate for the Surrey and Hampshire Border League which has a massive single vote representing around 400 players.
Could a kind person please pm it to me?
I am the delegate for the Surrey and Hampshire Border League which has a massive single vote representing around 400 players.
British Chess News : britishchessnews.com
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
-
- Posts: 2153
- Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 1:37 am
Re: ECF AGM 2022
Just wanted to emphasise - on AGM day - my previous point. The Institute of Directors say about non-executive directors: "Of the utmost importance is their independence of the company management and any of its ‘interested parties’. This means they can bring a degree of objectivity to the board’s deliberations, and play a valuable role in monitoring executive management."Angus French wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:31 amI do think though that a non-executive director should be able to challenge the work of an executive director and a cosy relationship between the two may inhibit that. I note that it's not only the CEO who has nominated candidates for non-executive positions but also the Director of Women's Chess has nominated Alan Atkinson.
-
- Posts: 5839
- Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
"I do think though that a non-executive director should be able to challenge the work of an executive director and a cosy relationship between the two may inhibit that."
Absolutely - I seem to recall that has happened in Surrey.
Absolutely - I seem to recall that has happened in Surrey.
-
- Posts: 1758
- Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:52 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
Obviously the Non-Execs should be challenging those in other positions when it is needed.
What I don't want to see is a situation where a Non-Exec is questioning officials just because they can and to make as much trouble as they can. I have concerns that we could be facing that type of situation depending on the outcome today.
What I don't want to see is a situation where a Non-Exec is questioning officials just because they can and to make as much trouble as they can. I have concerns that we could be facing that type of situation depending on the outcome today.
-
- Posts: 7234
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:29 am
- Location: Cove, Hampshire, England.
Re: ECF AGM 2022
Thanks to all those who have sent me the Zoom URL!John Upham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:07 amI've stupidly managed to mis-lay the Zoom URL for the AGM.
Could a kind person please pm it to me?
I am the delegate for the Surrey and Hampshire Border League which has a massive single vote representing around 400 players.
J.
British Chess News : britishchessnews.com
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
-
- Posts: 10382
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
- Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester
Re: ECF AGM 2022
That's a depressing thoughtAlex McFarlane wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:50 amObviously the Non-Execs should be challenging those in other positions when it is needed.
What I don't want to see is a situation where a Non-Exec is questioning officials just because they can and to make as much trouble as they can. I have concerns that we could be facing that type of situation depending on the outcome today.
As usual, big thanks to those giving up their time today to attend the meeting; I'm off to the football
Any postings on here represent my personal views
-
- Posts: 684
- Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: Manchester
Re: ECF AGM 2022
Thanks over 15 live and 24 on zoomMick Norris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:53 pmThat's a depressing thoughtAlex McFarlane wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:50 amObviously the Non-Execs should be challenging those in other positions when it is needed.
What I don't want to see is a situation where a Non-Exec is questioning officials just because they can and to make as much trouble as they can. I have concerns that we could be facing that type of situation depending on the outcome today.
As usual, big thanks to those giving up their time today to attend the meeting; I'm off to the football
Any postings on here represent my personal views only and also Dyslexia as well
-
- Posts: 21322
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm
Re: ECF AGM 2022
Alex McFarlane wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:50 amWhat I don't want to see is a situation where a Non-Exec is questioning officials just because they can and to make as much trouble as they can. I have concerns that we could be facing that type of situation depending on the outcome today.
We have seen that situation in the past. It even got to the stage where a non-exec resigned as director so as to challenge one of the incumbents.
-
- Posts: 7234
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:29 am
- Location: Cove, Hampshire, England.
Re: ECF AGM 2022
The meeting has started but audio quality for external Zoom users is awful.
Too much mumbling apart from Tim W. who is very clear.
Too much mumbling apart from Tim W. who is very clear.
British Chess News : britishchessnews.com
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess