Dragoljub Sudar wrote:Congress controllers will have to check each entrant's membership status to ensure the correct entry fee has been submitted. Those who run congresses early in the season will have the most work as that's when there will be more 'bronze' members.
That's exactly what we have to do now.Dragoljub Sudar wrote:Congress controllers will have to check each entrant's membership status to ensure the correct entry fee has been submitted.
Again, exactly as it is now apart from the fact that currently it happens at the start of every month.Dragoljub Sudar wrote:Clubs might not send their list of ECF members to the county/league until eof September, who in turn may not submit the league's/county's combined list and money to the ECF until mid October. If a player enters a congress in September he will consider himself an an ECF member but as he won't be on the database yet the congress organiser will think he isn't, unless he takes the player's word. Sean, as an organiser of a September congress, can you explain how would you handle this highly realistic situation?
Roger de Coverly wrote:Getting back to practical issues, if you are running a Congress in September or October, how do know anyone's membership status if it could listed or not in any one of forty MOs, which are variable in both their speed of collection and their reporting to the central membership database? This applies particularly if players enter the tournaments during August or earlier.
Sean Hewitt wrote:]That's exactly what we have to do now.
Gary Cook wrote:I don't see why we need to get involved under the membership scheme. It is an individual membership scheme after all.
It is also prudent to include an element of contingency for those organisations which seek to avoid implementing the membership scheme.
As a temporary measure, to protect against potential shocks to the ECFâ€™s funding, the following (greatly simplified) continuation of the Game Fee model is proposed for graded Club and League events:
A charge will be levied on each half-game played by a non-member, to be calculated at the end of August each year. The rate will be dependent upon the percentage of players in the competition who are ECF members. If there are 85% or more ECF members, the rate per half-game will be Â£1. If the proportion of ECF members falls below 85%, the rate per half-game will be Â£2. These rates will apply irrespective of the type of competition (i.e. standard play, rapid play, junior, club, etc.).
Louise Sinclair wrote:The ECF can attempt to levy a fine but what would happen if the league refuses to pay it ?
Sean Hewitt wrote: More likely they would not grade the league, or in future require pre-payment before doing so.
Louise Sinclair wrote:Refuse to pay the fines and go to the press giving bad publicity to the ECF
I was hoping not to have this debate, but I suppose it was inevitable.Louise Sinclair wrote:Refuse to pay the fines and go to the press giving bad publicity to the ECF
Alex McFarlane wrote:Andrew Butterworth, who with hisaggie take the entries for the Scarborough congress reported that a considerable number of players gave wrong details re ECF membership when entering. In most cases either they gave the wrong ECF membership number. So either they got it wrong or the ECF database is wrong.
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