ECF loses case

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Steve Rooney » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:18 pm

Krishna, PM sent.

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Andrew Camp » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:30 pm

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Peter D Williams » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:37 pm

Krishna Shiatis wrote:
Steve Rooney wrote:
Krishna Shiatis wrote:Please do read what I have written carefully.
I think you've just acknowledged that you haven't been writing carefully.
Steve, maybe my writing is not perfect - I will always admit this when it is the case, it should not stop you reading it and understanding what I am trying to say.

Nobody is perfect.
I wonder who writing is perfect very few i say. Its just anther attempt to take away from the points you are making Krishna.
Is it me or do female posters on here appear to get a lot of male posters trying to shout them down?
We need more female posters chess players taking part in my view and should be encouraging them to come forward and take part in debate. Maybe some do not want them to take part.
I like to see more females standing for office within the ECF after all there do make up at least half the population of the UK.

Im off to make ham Tortilla wraps Peter junior likes them!
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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Angus McDonald » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:51 pm

You can go round the country and see the same thing.

Certainly in England and Scotland. I havn't been to events in Ireland and Wales yet.

but you'll see the same thing. Parents sitting in a corner somewhere waiting patiently while their youngsters are trying their best to do well at the board. We bring them into Chess believing they have talent and hoping that they will fulfill their potential. We believe Chess is good for them and want them to do well in a fair competition. Along the way we all make mistakes, be it organisers, players, parents and children but we all want Chess and our children to succeed.

We know that at events parents are meant to be seen but not heard. We should know we spend scores of hours doing it.

At least allow us to have some say on a Chess forum!

Remember, we want Chess to be successful because we believe our children are talented at it!!

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Krishna Shiatis » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:05 pm

Steve Rooney wrote:Krishna, PM sent.
Thank you Steve. PM received and replied.

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:10 pm

"Thank you Steve. PM received and replied."

Carl there is something wrong with the personal messages thing.

People don't know they are getting messages and are having
to tell each other in the forum they have sent one and replied to one.

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:28 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:Carl there is something wrong with the personal messages thing.

People don't know they are getting messages and are having to tell each other in the forum they have sent one and replied to one.
I doubt it, can anyone else report please if they are getting notification message like the above?
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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:35 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:"Thank you Steve. PM received and replied."

Carl there is something wrong with the personal messages thing.

People don't know they are getting messages and are having
to tell each other in the forum they have sent one and replied to one.
I don't think that is the case. The notification at the top of the screen and e-mail notification (if set) should still be working (no reason for it not to). I think this was more a case of saying in public that some of the issues have been taken to a more private venue, usually done to keep things transparent if referred to later.

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:38 pm

Hi Carl

You just sent me a PM saying just that.

That was quick.

Are our forum posts now being sent as PM's.

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Mike Truran » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:01 pm

I fear Geoff's unique brand of humour has passed some forumites by. :lol:

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Alex McFarlane » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:08 pm

Mike Truran wrote:I fear Geoff's unique brand of humour has passed some forumites by.
It's not unique - he just had to move to Scotland for it to be appreciated.

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:16 pm

Alex McFarlane wrote:It's not unique - he just had to move to Scotland for it to be appreciated.
Desperate times call for desperate measures! :lol:

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:19 pm

Hi Alex.

I have never moved. I'm still in Bethnal Green.
Every now then I get a bloke who looks like me to wander around Scotland.
(don't lend him any money.)

Anyway....back on topic.

I've read all this thread and cannot understand one word of it
so have nothing to contribute.

(tell Lara I got my PM about a place to stay at the British and have replied.)

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Re: ECF loses case

Post by John McKenna » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:32 pm

Don't lose sight of the fact that ECF is a company limited by *guarantee* and despite the word Federation in its title, it's clearly not a grassroots democratic organisation. Martin, a former insider, presents a businessman's view and Krishna a grassroots one but she and we other 'members' are clients.
Legal action was taken in a covert manner. Despite claims of collective/selective amnesia it was more likely conducted on a need-to-know basis. If it had succeeded we'd be having a different discussion.
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Re: ECF loses case

Post by Alex McFarlane » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:36 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:Desperate times call for desperate measures!
Sorry Alex if that is a request for me to stand for the ECF Board I have to declare a conflict of interest.

May I remind you that you want me to do a report on you. So write out 1000 times "I'd much rather be in Scotland, even Edinburgh, than a member of the ECF Board".

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