ECF Player of the Year Award

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ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed May 28, 2014 11:04 am

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/player-o ... more-29692

Am I the only one who feels that disclosing the current outcome of a ballot still in progress is most improper?

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed May 28, 2014 11:18 am

David Sedgwick wrote:http://www.englishchess.org.uk/player-o ... more-29692

Am I the only one who feels that disclosing the current outcome of a ballot still in progress is most improper?
Yes, but then Keith was always going to walk it.
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed May 28, 2014 11:26 am

Roger (of this parish) may still have a chance! :wink:

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Michael Farthing » Wed May 28, 2014 11:28 am

I agree with David.

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed May 28, 2014 11:46 am

I presume we will miss out on web site of the year again :oops:
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Peter D Williams » Wed May 28, 2014 3:33 pm

Afternoon All

I was hoping Yang-Fan Zhou would have won it he only sppears to have one vote.
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by John Upham » Wed May 28, 2014 4:20 pm

Peter D Williams wrote:Afternoon All

I was hoping Yang-Fan Zhou would have won it he only sppears to have one vote.
Did you give him any votes?

It is a top secret ballot after all...
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Michael Farthing » Wed May 28, 2014 4:29 pm

Peter D Williams wrote:Afternoon All

I was hoping Yang-Fan Zhou would have won it he only sppears to have one vote.

Nowt for dinner?
Are you fasting out of disappointment?

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Peter D Williams » Wed May 28, 2014 5:19 pm

Michael Farthing wrote:

Nowt for dinner?
Are you fasting out of disappointment?
Tonight it is Creamy Chicken and Basil Linguine :D
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed May 28, 2014 7:48 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:http://www.englishchess.org.uk/player-o ... more-29692

Am I the only one who feels that disclosing the current outcome of a ballot still in progress is most improper?
The link has now disappeared.

Does someone in a high place agree with me?

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Richard Bates » Wed May 28, 2014 8:41 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote:http://www.englishchess.org.uk/player-o ... more-29692

Am I the only one who feels that disclosing the current outcome of a ballot still in progress is most improper?
The link has now disappeared.

Does someone in a high place agree with me?
One might think if it's actually somebody's job within the ECF to dream up new ways of making them look organisationally incompetent. The ECF player of the year award does seem like pretty fertile ground, after the ludicrous experiment with online voting a few years ago, they've now come up with a new measure that would result in a reballot in any serious electoral contest :roll: Still the whole contest does seem rather open to fraud if one was so motivated. The voting system is a bit silly as well IMO, but at least that isn't new.

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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by JustinHorton » Wed May 28, 2014 9:38 pm

Well, up to a point, and I don't disagree that current scores shouldn't have been avilable to voters. But apart from the observation that it isn't actually very important, I am sure we can think of various electoral contests in which some results at least are announced while voting nevertheless continues. Most online polls, for instance (including ones on here) but on a more serious level am I right to think that some districts' votes are announced in US Presidential elections before polls have closed in others?
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Joey Stewart » Wed May 28, 2014 11:29 pm

It willl be nice to see Keith win it, I am sure that the 2700s are nice guys and all abut how much do they really contribute to english chess when they spend 90% of their lives playing abroad?
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by John Upham » Thu May 29, 2014 12:08 am

I assume that some voters will look-up the highest rated English player and then vote for that player. I could be wrong.
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Re: ECF Player of the Year Award

Post by Nick Grey » Thu May 29, 2014 12:43 am

Feels improper to me too.
X factor voting is a bit more secretive.

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