Dodgy Download?

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stevencarr

Dodgy Download?

Post by stevencarr » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:41 pm

I just got an email from the ECf saying I could download Informator 123 for free.

Is this a genuine offer or an invitation to download some dodgy malware?

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Michael Farthing » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:49 pm

They're not that evil!

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by stevencarr » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:59 pm

It might not be them. It just wants me to install some software on my computer, which I don't do (unless it is an email from Nigeria, of course)

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:10 pm

I would assume it's bad in the first instance and avoid.
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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:23 pm

I've asked Dave Thomas to confirm. The rest of the e-mail refers to the finance meeting and looked official but after reading the comments above I thought I'd make sure first.

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:29 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:I've asked Dave Thomas to confirm. The rest of the e-mail refers to the finance meeting and looked official but after reading the comments above I thought I'd make sure first.
Always, wherever it comes from and even then I don't like anything that wants to install...

PDF or a "book" type format would make more sense for this?
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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:59 pm

Bob Kane has confirmed that it's genuine.

Maybe Carl could try it first though :wink:

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:00 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:I've asked Dave Thomas to confirm. The rest of the e-mail refers to the finance meeting and looked official but after reading the comments above I thought I'd make sure first.
Always, wherever it comes from and even then I don't like anything that wants to install...

PDF or a "book" type format would make more sense for this?
It's the March 2015 issue of the chess informant publication in chessbase format and in pgn format. Not sure why you would need a setup program for that, but chessbase material often behaves in their own ways. I looked at the pgn file and it looks ok, lots of annotated games.

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Angus French » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:00 pm

It's fine. I've downloaded and installed the file and it is a free electronic copy of Informator 123. The same thing, I assume, as is being sold for £19.69 here.

Further emails from Gold, Silver and Bronze members' representatives about the upcoming Finance Council Meeting should arrive soon. I'm not sure they're being sent by the same mechanism.

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:13 pm

Ok good news.
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Reason: Put it on the web site that you are about to do that?
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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:26 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:Bob Kane has confirmed that it's genuine.

Maybe Carl could try it first though :wink:
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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Colin Purdon » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:38 am

It looks like a dodgy download, not least because the actual link (http://sut5.co.uk/...etcetc) is different from the text in the email (http://www.britishchesschampionships.co.uk/...etcetc) so it is natural to be suspicious.

However, as others have mentioned, it downloads and installs fine. The installer is for the (free) Chessbase Reader program that is used for many Chessbase publications (which can therefore be used by everyone, regardless of whether or not the have bought the full-blown Chessbase software).

In my view, this is actually rather a decent benefit.

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Ian Thompson » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:39 am

Colin Purdon wrote:However, as others have mentioned, it downloads and installs fine. The installer is for the (free) Chessbase Reader program that is used for many Chessbase publications (which can therefore be used by everyone, regardless of whether or not the have bought the full-blown Chessbase software).
I now have something called "Chess Informant 123 Hawaiian" in my list of installed programs from Control Panel. This created a load of ChessBase files on my computer and uninstalling it deletes most of them. Who knows what else it might have done? It's clearly not satisfactory that you are asked to install a program without having a clue what it's going to do. If all it needs to do is copy data files onto your computer it shouldn't be installing software at all. (It didn't install ChessBase Reader for me, but maybe that's because I've already got the full ChessBase program installed.)

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Re: Dodgy Download?

Post by Colin Purdon » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:22 am

Ian Thompson wrote:It didn't install ChessBase Reader for me, but maybe that's because I've already got the full ChessBase program installed.
Come to think of it, I already had Chessbase Reader installed (and full Chessbase), and the Reader is what runs "Chess Informant 123 Hawaiian" on my PC - obviously that could be a simple file association. The link given by Angus above suggests that a reader (not necessarily Chessbase) should be installed before installing Chess Informant 123 Hawaiian, so it does look like the installer is just copying files about.