Ask the CEO

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Carl Hibbard » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:08 pm

Actually Matthew got the question wrong saying £175 which did not help and Phil then squirmed away with a go legal on us option.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:10 pm

I don't suppose he wanted to place on record his explanation as to why he couldn't be bothered to correct himself, or indeed reply at all, when I asked him about the discrepancy. Seven months ago.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Carl Hibbard » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:13 pm

He skirted around the EU data directive and FIDE a little but that one has a long way to go yet.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:14 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:Actually Matthew got the question wrong saying £175 which did not help and Phil then squirmed away with a go legal on us option.
Matthew's slip of the tongue was unfortunate, but I thought the answer was clear enough.

Lawrence has given it above, but I'll repeat it.

The prizes were £750.

Phil had previously said that the ECF had contributed £1000 to the prize fund, but that was incorrect. The actual contribution was £750.

Hence the entire ECF contribution was paid out in prizes and there was no discrepancy.

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Carl Hibbard » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:14 pm

He has to be commended for sitting there and doing his thing though.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:19 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:Lawrence has given it above, but I'll repeat it.

The prizes were £750.

Phil had previously said that the ECF had contributed £1000 to the prize fund, but that was incorrect. The actual contribution was £750.

Hence the entire ECF contribution was paid out in prizes and there was no discrepancy.
Any luck on this bit?
JustinHorton wrote:I don't suppose he wanted to place on record his explanation as to why he couldn't be bothered to correct himself, or indeed reply at all, when I asked him about the discrepancy. Seven months ago.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:24 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote:Lawrence has given it above, but I'll repeat it.

The prizes were £750.

Phil had previously said that the ECF had contributed £1000 to the prize fund, but that was incorrect. The actual contribution was £750.

Hence the entire ECF contribution was paid out in prizes and there was no discrepancy.
Any luck on this bit?
JustinHorton wrote:I don't suppose he wanted to place on record his explanation as to why he couldn't be bothered to correct himself, or indeed reply at all, when I asked him about the discrepancy. Seven months ago.
Not unless it was mentioned when his voice was too faint to be heard.

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:45 pm

JustinHorton wrote: Any luck on this bit?
JustinHorton wrote:I don't suppose he wanted to place on record his explanation as to why he couldn't be bothered to correct himself, or indeed reply at all, when I asked him about the discrepancy. Seven months ago.
Sorry - I hadn't seen that post from you when I replied earlier.

No, there was no explanation as to why it had taken so long for the record to be corrected. A much earlier acknowledgment of the error would have made things simpler and easier for all concerned - and allowed time for another question.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:47 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:He skirted around the EU data directive and FIDE a little but that one has a long way to go yet.
Carl Hibbard wrote:He has to be commended for sitting there and doing his thing though.
He had either read the agenda for the FIDE Congress or been well briefed on it. I was impressed about that.

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:47 am

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:Questions for the CEO are possible via Facebook or Twitter at 8pm according to the main site page.
Some minutes have appeared as if by miracle today :roll:
From which under AOB from the 29 May 2015 board meeting:
The Board expressed its disquiet at the lack of diversity in the shortlist for Player of the Year.
Directors believed that on balance, it was better on this occasion to support the Awards
Committee’s process.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:49 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:He skirted around the EU data directive and FIDE a little but that one has a long way to go yet.
Carl Hibbard wrote:He has to be commended for sitting there and doing his thing though.
He had either read the agenda for the FIDE Congress or been well briefed on it. I was impressed about that.
When I spoke to Phil before and during the MCF AGM, he seemed pretty knowledgeable about a number of issues, albeit we don't agree about some of them

Is there going to be a summary of yesterday evening's session?
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote: Phil then squirmed away with a go legal on us option.
Yes, having now seen it on YouTube I can't say I'm enormously impressed with that.
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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Sean Hewitt » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:51 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:Actually Matthew got the question wrong saying £175 which did not help and Phil then squirmed away with a go legal on us option.
Matthew's slip of the tongue was unfortunate, but I thought the answer was clear enough.

Lawrence has given it above, but I'll repeat it.

The prizes were £750.

Phil had previously said that the ECF had contributed £1000 to the prize fund, but that was incorrect. The actual contribution was £750.

Hence the entire ECF contribution was paid out in prizes and there was no discrepancy.
I'm grateful for bringing this question and answer to my attention.

Having watched the YouTube club that is indeed what Phil said, but I'm afraid that what Phil said was not true. The actual ECF contribution to the 2014 English Seniors Championships was zero.

e2e4 Chess received an underwrite from a personal sponsor on 11 January 2014 to support the event in the event of receiving fewer than 48 entries. That underwrite was based on a formula and was capped at a maximum contribution of £1000. The event received 12 entries. e2e4 supplied accounts as agreed and drew down all of that £1000 support on 14 April 2014. That amount was paid to e2e4 Chess some days later via the ECF, but did not come from ECF funds.

I hope that clarifies matters.

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:00 am

Sean Hewitt wrote: e2e4 supplied accounts as agreed and drew down all of that £1000 support on 14 April 2014.
So £ 1000 was paid as support and £ 750 was paid in prizes.

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Re: Ask the CEO

Post by Sean Hewitt » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:13 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sean Hewitt wrote: e2e4 supplied accounts as agreed and drew down all of that £1000 support on 14 April 2014.
So £ 1000 was paid as support and £ 750 was paid in prizes.
There were 12 entires. The event received private support of £1000. The event paid out £750 in prizes. The event lost money.

It may surprise you to learn that chess tournaments cost money to run.