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Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:46 pm
by Niall Doran
Hi all.

I'm using version 4.16, I have a small database of games that I want to filter in the following way:

I want to select all my games as White and then use the Tree function to look through my openings to see which ones I do well/poorly against.
So I open the game database, go to Search->General and select my games as White, which selects roughly half my games. When I click on the Tree function however, it shows the statistics for moves in all the games, and not just ones I played with White.

Can anyone help me with this?

Also if I'm struggling with something this basic, should I use another program, as a lot of comments about the program say that it's not very user-friendly?

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:36 pm
by MSoszynski
Niall,

First of all, I recommend Scid http://scid.sourceforge.net/ over the program you mention. They are similar, but Scid sans phrase is superior, in my opinion.

Now, I will tell you a way to achieve what you want though it might not be the way you wanted to do it.

Do your search, but then (in Scid)...
Database -> Export All Filter Games -> Export Filter to PGN File
Thus you create a file of (say) me-as-white.pgn whence you can...
Open base as tree

This may seem long-winded, but it soon becomes a routine matter of a few mouse clicks. Of course you don't need Export if you haven't added games since.

I hope that's helpful. For all I know there may be an even quicker way in Scid.

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:41 pm
by MartinCarpenter
Think there might be.

Open up the database in question, find the player report option in whichever drop down menu it is in, select you/white, generate report and gaze at the detailed analysis :) Is nice.

You might also get the tree menu to change if you explicitly use the restrict option on the filter, I'm not sure how that behaves.

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:44 pm
by Niall Doran
Thanks for the help MSoszynski and Martin!

You were right about me not wanting to do it that way, I'd already thought of doing it that way but I thought there might be something more efficient.

Regarding the report, it seems very basic. Although I've just learned that I've a 57% score with White and only 41% with Black, so even that's a useful bit of info!

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:44 pm
by MartinCarpenter
It takes a bit of reading but I the report should give most frequent openings, score in those, shortest/longest games etc. Maybe I'm thinking of another sort of report it can do :)

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:38 pm
by Brian Towers
Niall Doran wrote:Although I've just learned that I've a 57% score with White and only 41% with Black, so even that's a useful bit of info!
Maybe, maybe not.
Do you also record your opponents' ratings/gradings? And if so will the program also give your opponents' average gradings with white and black?

Re: Scid vs. PC help

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:05 pm
by MartinCarpenter
Yes, although not remotely well with BCFs on my version at least. Think it must be basically locked to FIDE.

Lots of info mind - 5 oldest games, 5 newest games, most frequent opponents (+ score vs the same), result lengths (number of moves) and frequencies, highest average rating games, then a theory table at the end.

This is a player report, but did require me to filter down to just my games with white/black to make it work. Which is odd. All using Scid 4.5.1. Opening reports seem to be quite similar.