Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

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Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Anthony.R.Brown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:22 am

Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgH96wrN2o


[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 06-Short"]
[Date "2015.04.08"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Stockfish 6 Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3300+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "180 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]




[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 06-Analysis"]
[Date "2015.04.08"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Stockfish 6 Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3300+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "180 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]


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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:01 pm

Anthony.R.Brown wrote:Using The A.R.B Chess System
I would have thought the development scheme of playing in no particular order h6, g6, Bg7, e6, Ne7, d6, Nd7, b6, Bb7, a6, followed by c5 or f5 was known as the Hippopotamus. If you aren't a computer engine, it isn't difficult to play against, as you know where your opponent's pieces are going. In a recent game I established an advantage for white by fianchettoing both Bishops and seizing space. So, again in no particular order, the white structure was b3, Bb2, c4,Nc3,d4, Nf3, g3, Bg2 . The early development of the Bishop in g2 caused Black some difficulties in setting up the b6, Bb7 part of his plan.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:19 pm

Yes, JC Thompson would have been delighted.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Anthony.R.Brown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:12 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Anthony.R.Brown wrote:Using The A.R.B Chess System
I would have thought the development scheme of playing in no particular order h6, g6, Bg7, e6, Ne7, d6, Nd7, b6, Bb7, a6, followed by c5 or f5 was known as the Hippopotamus. If you aren't a computer engine, it isn't difficult to play against, as you know where your opponent's pieces are going. In a recent game I established an advantage for white by fianchettoing both Bishops and seizing space. So, again in no particular order, the white structure was b3, Bb2, c4,Nc3,d4, Nf3, g3, Bg2 . The early development of the Bishop in g2 caused Black some difficulties in setting up the b6, Bb7 part of his plan.

Hi Roger

The Hippopotamus is an Old! Chess Opening Defence before Strong Chess/Engines/Programs and is Completely Different to The A.R.B Chess System :) Which is as it's called a System!
Your Quote "If you aren't a computer engine, it isn't difficult to play against" The A.R.B Chess System is Only for Beating the Best (3000)+ ELO
Chess Program/Engines Not! (Humans) :)

Below Shows how Different they are from the first Moves! (Move Order is Very Important!)

(The Hippopotamus Defence)
The Main (HIPPO) Defence Opening Line...
1. e4 Nh6 2. d4 g6 3. c4 f6

(The A.R.B Chess System)
(10) The Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line...
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6
6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5

(The A.R.B Chess System)
No Official Chess Data Base has the
Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line! :)

(The Hippopotamus Defence)
Most Official Chess Data Base's have the
Main (HIPPO) Defence Opening Line.

Below is the Example for Both Playing as (Black) Playing as (White) would be the Same Symmetrical Setup...
but of course uses the (White) End of the Board Cordinates.

(The A.R.B Chess System)
(2) Always Starts with the Two Centre Pawns
E7-E6 then D7-D6 Unless Stopped by White?
Then the Next Pawn in the System is Played.

(The Hippopotamus Defence)
Starts with Other Pawns?
There are No Records of the Hippopotamus
Defence Starting with E7-E6 then D7-D6.

The Video Below Explains more...

P.S (3000)+ ELO Chess Program/Engines Destroy (The Hippopotamus Defence) :)

The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Differences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RidiladKJVw

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:45 pm

Anthony.R.Brown wrote: (10) The Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line...
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6
6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5
That's a 150 attack against the Tiger Modern.

1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. Nf3 a6 5. Be3 h6 6. Bd3 b6 7. Qd2 Bb7 8. 0-0 e6 or an equivalent move order reaches the same position. 9 d5 is a bit cooperative as White can "do nothing" just as easily as Black.

There are presumably sequences in which the precise order of a6, b6, d6, e6 , g6 and h6 actually matters, mostly it doesn't unless White had a threat like having a Bishop already on the diagonals where g6 and b6 were to be played.

Anthony.R.Brown

Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Anthony.R.Brown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:36 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Anthony.R.Brown wrote: (10) The Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line...
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6
6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5
That's a 150 attack against the Tiger Modern.

1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. Nf3 a6 5. Be3 h6 6. Bd3 b6 7. Qd2 Bb7 8. 0-0 e6 or an equivalent move order reaches the same position. 9 d5 is a bit cooperative as White can "do nothing" just as easily as Black.

There are presumably sequences in which the precise order of a6, b6, d6, e6 , g6 and h6 actually matters, mostly it doesn't unless White had a threat like having a Bishop already on the diagonals where g6 and b6 were to be played.

As I Said!...and it's Something that may be New to you! (Move Order) is the Most important thing! and it's what Separates The A.R.B Chess System from Everything Else!
The Proof is that No! One else has been able to Beat Houdini/Komodo/Stockfish Etc. in the same way that I have!
Play a Random Move Order in a Way like the Hippo and Computers will Crush anyone! The Hippo let's the Computers Dominate! The A.R.B Chess System does the Opposite!
Move Order!! Get the Moves wrong from the Start and your Opponent Dictates the Game! as Computers have shown with Every Strong Chess Play! I have found the Only way to Stop them!
Look at My Example Games below from the Beginning! All are Out of Book at Moves .2 Check any Games Databases and you will find the Same!

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 01-Short"]
[Date "2013.07.27"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Houdini.Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3000+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6
5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 02-Short"]
[Date "2013.09.13"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Komodo.Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3000+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Nc3 h6 4. Nf3 a6
5. Be2 g6 6. Be3 b6 7. O-O Bg7 8. d5 e5

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 03-Short"]
[Date "2013.09.19"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Komodo.Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3000+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Nc3 h6 4. Nf3 a6
5. Be2 g6 6. Be3 b6 7. O-O Bg7 8. d5 e5

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 04-Analysis"]
[Date "2014.06.12"]
[Round "1"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Stockfish 5 Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3300+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Nf3 h6 4. Bd3 a6
5. O-O g6 6. c4 b6 7. Nc3 Bg7 8. Be3 Ne7

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 05-Analysis"]
[Date "2014.09.27"]
[Round "2"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[White-Elo "?"]
[Black "Stockfish 5 Chess Program"]
[Black-Elo "3300+"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e3 e5 2. d3 d5 {last book move} 3. h3 Nf6 4. a3 c5
5. g3 Nc6 6. b3 Bd6 7. Bg2 Be6 8. Ne2 O-O

[Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 06-Analysis"]
[Date "2015.04.08"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Stockfish 6 Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3300+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "180 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 {last book move} d6 3. c4 h6 4. e4 a6
5. Nc3 g6 6. Be2 b6 7. O-O Bg7 8. Be3 Ne7

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:43 pm

A couple of questions.

(i) Have you tried this system against human?
(ii) When you play a computer, do you use another computer to help?

i.e. Are you playing a form of Advanced Chess?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:44 pm

Anthony.R.Brown wrote:
As I Said!...and it's Something that may be New to you! (Move Order) is the Most important thing! and it's what Separates The A.R.B Chess System from Everything Else!
It's only if the computer's book is so poorly programmed that it doesn't detect transpositions, that you catch it in this manner. Once you search a games database by position rather than move sequence, it becomes clear enough that move orders shouldn't matter when they lead to the same position.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Andrew Martin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:05 pm

A very interesting system.

Can we arrange a public demonstration, where you play your system successfully without help against a leading chess engine? How about at this year's British?

You could make a fortune if it comes off.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Nick Burrows » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:10 pm

I don't believe this is bonafide. I wager a bet that I can beat Mr A.R Brown in a realtime game using my engine.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:44 pm

I have moved this to Adverts as I classed it as such what do others think?
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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:46 pm

The h6 to cover g5 in the notes is deep.
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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:08 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:I have moved this to Adverts as I classed it as such what do others think?
Agreed, I've seen other chess forums spammed with "A.R.B Chess System" content.

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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:11 pm

Paolo Casaschi wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:I have moved this to Adverts as I classed it as such what do others think?
Agreed, I've seen other chess forums spammed with "A.R.B Chess System" content.
Sniper or ARB I am just not sure :lol:
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Re: Stockfish 6 Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess System

Post by Anthony.R.Brown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:34 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Paolo Casaschi wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:I have moved this to Adverts as I classed it as such what do others think?
Agreed, I've seen other chess forums spammed with "A.R.B Chess System" content.
Sniper or ARB I am just not sure :lol:

OK! This is where I show what I am about!

Move My Thread back to The Normal "General Chess" Thread or Close this Thread and My Account!


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