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Well as a Jew im happy to be labelled in the "few" bracket. I also understand what Poems are about the holocaust directly.

I'm not quite sure, though, that you grasp the distinction between "directly" and "solely".

With the British Championships approaching, you need to find somewhere in the host town for evening meals and drinks. For some reason, this thread reminds me of the popular Wetherspoons in Great Yarmouth two years ago.

http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/pubs/pub ... Number=210

Your a total plonker...Its talking about not doing anything despite the warning signs about the Hitler rising. One of the variables of proving the point is the holocaust, but I do not think stating the poem is "solely" this variable.

In fact if you have a generalised poem of this uprising, alot more Soviets died in numbers than Jewish people , so surely his directive was anti-Soviet?


I am dyslexic , Simon might be silly, Jonathan might be a child but someone dyslexic, someone silly , even a child could interpolate that poem in a proper manner.

Ben

Is this a direct link to the Sharks in the pub , dancing around the arbiters table?

That was a good pub, better than there race course!!

"I went to Great Yarmouth to support Makepeace and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" - were very cool.

Ben

I'm not sure what this means, Ben, but - yes, of course the poem is directly about the Holocaust. It lists various groups who were carted off by the Nazis and taken to the camps where they were subsequently wiped out. Last in the list is "me,", i.e. Niemöller, who of course went to the camps eventually himself.

Hence, "directly". It is the poem's subject. That's what "directly" is, Ben. But of course that's not all it's about: plainly it invites people to draw conclusions for the future and for their own situation. Hamlet's most famous soliloquy isn't just about his consideration of suicide: but it is, directly, about suicide and his personal contemplation of that act.

You see?

I was thinking of the pub name myself.

I'm not sure what this means, Ben, but - yes, of course the poem is directly about the Holocaust. It lists various groups who were carted off by the Nazis and taken to the camps where they were subsqeuerntly wiped out. Last in the list is "me,", i.e. Niemöller, who of course went to the camps eventually himself.


If this does not prove my point , I don't know what does. Considering your a liberarian, read Peter Longerich- the third Riech , very easy to get hold of.

also "wiped out" ......................??????????

Ben

Am I struggling to understand you, Ben, or are you struggling to understand me?

I prefer that URL's are quoted giving due respect both to this site and whatever "other" site people are quoting - that is the only fair way

In this case no...


Give it up John, the ECF do not want any debate

I would like to suggest Justin that you take a couple of steps back (whilst doing deep breathing exercises..) and try to calm down

I have control but am depressed when I have to step in and ask people to behave