Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
Vidit, Caruana, Esipenko and Deac on 6/8
9 players on 5.5
Vitiugov one of 8 on 5
9 players on 5.5
Vitiugov one of 8 on 5
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
Horrible collapse from Etienne Bacrot to lose that drawn position against Caruana!
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44 112 IM Royal, Shreyas 2407 3½ 3½ GM Murzin, Volodar 2633 69
Pairings are out and it looks like Shreyas needs a draw for his second GM norm.
Pairings are out and it looks like Shreyas needs a draw for his second GM norm.
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It looks like IM Ramazan Zhalmakhanov (as mentioned earlier) has effectively achieved a GM norm (even if he loses in round 9). I wonder if IM Shawn Rodrigue-Lemieux needs only a draw for a GM norm in round 9? (Rodrigue-Lemieux beat Ivanchuk in a previous round - Ivanchuk, sadly, has only drawn and lost games so far.)LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:16 pm44 112 IM Royal, Shreyas 2407 3½ 3½ GM Murzin, Volodar 2633 69
Pairings are out and it looks like Shreyas needs a draw for his second GM norm.
All three of these IMs will have faced a field of 9 GMs.
How common is it for GM norms to be achieved against all-GM fields?
I don't suppose there are definitive statistics on that, but I am guessing it is not that common.
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
round 9 pairings
Caruana v Deac
Vidit v Espienko
Niemann v Vitiugov
Standings are the tiebreak criteria shown the ones being used here?
Women round 9 pairings and Standings
Candidates qualifying position
Caruana v Deac
Vidit v Espienko
Niemann v Vitiugov
Standings are the tiebreak criteria shown the ones being used here?
Women round 9 pairings and Standings
Candidates qualifying position
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Your norm calculations are the same as mine, Chris. The other round 9 norm chance is that I think Li Wu needs a draw for an IM norm.
Haven't yet looked at norm possibilities in the women's event, but there probably are some.
Haven't yet looked at norm possibilities in the women's event, but there probably are some.
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Vaishali, Rameshbabu is playing her 4th GM and has a performance rating of 2645
There are 9 other IMs in the top 15 places in the standings, so some of those may have a chance
Of the WGMs, Kamalidenova, Meruert must have a good chance of an IM norm, although she plays Kosteniuk today
There are 9 other IMs in the top 15 places in the standings, so some of those may have a chance
Of the WGMs, Kamalidenova, Meruert must have a good chance of an IM norm, although she plays Kosteniuk today
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Interesting tournament, with everything still to play for.
One thing which strikes me as slightly strange, from a sporting point of view, is that a player who has already qualified for the candidates can have a big influence on who gets the places from this event. That might be by agreeing a quick draw in the last round with a friend or compatriot, or defeating a major rival. I can’t think of another sport where this could happen.
One thing which strikes me as slightly strange, from a sporting point of view, is that a player who has already qualified for the candidates can have a big influence on who gets the places from this event. That might be by agreeing a quick draw in the last round with a friend or compatriot, or defeating a major rival. I can’t think of another sport where this could happen.
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Just one example is the current cricket World Cup. South Africa, already through to the semifinals in their last group game, might lose to Afghanistan, thereby letting them through instead of Australia or NZ.Graham Borrowdale wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:13 amI can’t think of another sport where this could happen.
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He's actually achieved a 10 game norm already - if he loses today and then tomorrow (even against the lowest seed) he still gets at least a 2623 TPR.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:12 pmIt looks like IM Ramazan Zhalmakhanov (as mentioned earlier) has effectively achieved a GM norm (even if he loses in round 9).
From Rd.9, I make them as follows:Mick Norris wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:58 amVaishali, Rameshbabu is playing her 4th GM and has a performance rating of 2645
There are 9 other IMs in the top 15 places in the standings, so some of those may have a chance
Of the WGMs, Kamalidenova, Meruert must have a good chance of an IM norm, although she plays Kosteniuk today
Vaishali needs a draw for a GM norm
Garifullina, Milliet, Munguntuul need to win for a GM norm
Tsolakidou needs 2/2 playing a 2320 tomorrow for a GM norm
Kamalidenova needs a draw to get an IM norm
Wagner can't get an IM norm today, she needs at least 2.5/3 in the last 3 rounds and a favourable draw to get to an IM norm (unless she plays Goryachkina tomorrow in which case 2/2 is enough)
Beydullayeva can't get an IM norm today, 2/2 playing a 2291+ tomorrow will do it, as will 2.5/3 with a 2352.5 average opponent in the last 2 rounds
Terbe needs a win for a WGM norm
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
That's a completely different situation. South Africa didn't have a place in the semi-finals before the event began. Caruana did have a Candidates place before the FIDE Grand Swiss began.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:42 amJust one example is the current cricket World Cup. South Africa, already through to the semifinals in their last group game, might lose to Afghanistan, thereby letting them through instead of Australia or NZ.Graham Borrowdale wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:13 amI can’t think of another sport where this could happen.
South Africa's situation is nothing unusual. There must be lots of occasions where a team/player does well enough to win/qualify for something with games still to play so the result of the last games doesn't matter to them, but does matter to their opponents, who haven't done so well.
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
Murzin's 18th & 19th moves
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Such a shame after a good opening and promising middle game position for Shreyas. The Bh6/Nf6 tactics seemed to come out of nowhere albeit with hindsight it was Rh4 and then Rh2 which made them possible.
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Re: Isle Of Man International (Fide Grand Swiss)
He should get another shot at the norm tomorrow; provided he plays a 2528+ (which is all but 6 of the other players) he will need to win.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:33 pmSuch a shame after a good opening and promising middle game position for Shreyas. The Bh6/Nf6 tactics seemed to come out of nowhere albeit with hindsight it was Rh4 which made them possible.
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Next up: GM Mareco, Sandro 2606 3½ 3½ IM Royal, Shreyas 2407ThomasEvans wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:04 pmHe should get another shot at the norm tomorrow; provided he plays a 2528+ (which is all but 6 of the other players) he will need to win.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:33 pmSuch a shame after a good opening and promising middle game position for Shreyas. The Bh6/Nf6 tactics seemed to come out of nowhere albeit with hindsight it was Rh4 which made them possible.