May 2011 FIDE Rating List

[LozCooper]

England (Active players)

# Name Title Fed Rating G B-Year
1 Adams, Michael g ENG 2726 9 1971
2 Short, Nigel D g ENG 2682 9 1965
3 McShane, Luke J g ENG 2667 36 1984
4 Sadler, Matthew D g ENG 2624 2 1974
5 Howell, David W L g ENG 2618 7 1990
6 Jones, Gawain C B g ENG 2596 29 1987
7 Pert, Nicholas g ENG 2570 0 1981
8 Haslinger, Stewart G g ENG 2548 8 1981
9 Hebden, Mark L g ENG 2539 17 1958
10 Gordon, Stephen J g ENG 2534 7 1986
11 Conquest, Stuart C g ENG 2532 17 1967
12 Parker, Jonathan F g ENG 2531 0 1976
13 Speelman, Jon S g ENG 2521 0 1956
14 Williams, Simon K g ENG 2520 19 1979
15 Turner, Matthew J g ENG 2517 0 1975
16 Gormally, Daniel W g ENG 2502 9 1976
17 Wells, Peter K g ENG 2501 14 1965
18 Norwood, David R g ENG 2491 5 1968
19 Mestel, A Jonathan g ENG 2484 0 1957
20 Plaskett, H James g ENG 2481 6 1960
21 Flear, Glenn C g ENG 2476 11 1959
22 Emms, John M g ENG 2475 0 1967
23 King, Daniel J g ENG 2466 0 1963
24 McDonald, Neil g ENG 2460 0 1967
25 Palliser, Richard J D m ENG 2456 2 1981
26 Hunt, Harriet V m ENG 2454 0 1978
27 Pert, Richard G m ENG 2452 7 1981
28 Ward, Chris G g ENG 2449 0 1968
29 Greet, Andrew N m ENG 2448 5 1979
30 Trent, Lawrence m ENG 2442 0 1986
31 D`Costa, Lorin A R m ENG 2437 9 1984
32 Hunt, Adam C m ENG 2436 0 1980
33 Hanley, Craig A m ENG 2433 0 1984
34 Houska, Jovanka m ENG 2429 11 1980
34 Hawkins, Jonathan m ENG 2429 0 1983
34 Ledger, Andrew J m ENG 2429 0 1969
37 Mah, Karl C C m ENG 2428 0 1980
38 Ansell, Simon T m ENG 2427 0 1975
39 Zhou, Yang-Fan f ENG 2423 24 1994
40 Arkell, Keith C g ENG 2419 14 1961
40 Summerscale, Aaron P g ENG 2419 9 1969
42 Cox, John J m ENG 2407 0 1962
43 Martin, Andrew D m ENG 2406 0 1957
44 Quillan, Gary m ENG 2399 8 1970
45 Rendle, Thomas E m ENG 2398 6 1986
46 Hinks-Edwards, Thomas R J m ENG 2391 13 1977
46 Hennigan, Michael T m ENG 2391 0 1970
48 Collinson, Adam R f ENG 2390 0 1972
48 Pein, Malcolm m ENG 2390 0 1960
50 Cobb, Charles A m ENG 2385 0 1978
51 Buckley, Graeme N m ENG 2380 5 1971
52 Ferguson, Mark m ENG 2379 0 1977
53 Bates, Richard A m ENG 2378 7 1979
54 Devereaux, Maxim L m ENG 2377 14 1976
55 Taulbut, Shaun M m ENG 2376 0 1958
56 Littlewood, Paul E m ENG 2367 0 1956
57 Bellin, Robert m ENG 2362 0 1952
58 Mortazavi, Ali m ENG 2353 0 1971
59 Buckley, Simon T ENG 2345 0 1985
60 Ashton, Adam G f ENG 2344 0 1980
60 Broomfield, Matthew P f ENG 2344 0 1983
62 Rahal, Michael A m ENG 2343 11 1970
62 Crouch, Colin S m ENG 2343 0 1956
64 Piper, Matthew S ENG 2341 0 1971
65 Rogers, Jonathan W f ENG 2338 0 1972
66 Taylor, Martin R f ENG 2337 5 1981
67 Povah, Nigel E m ENG 2336 0 1952
68 Knott, Simon J B m ENG 2329 0 1958
69 Sowray, Peter J f ENG 2327 4 1959
69 Ciuksyte, Dagne m ENG 2327 0 1977
71 Teichmann, Erik O M C f ENG 2326 9 1961
72 Vigus, James E f ENG 2323 4 1978
73 Poobalasingam, Peter S f ENG 2321 0 1989
74 Berry, Stephen H f ENG 2320 9 1951
75 Eggleston, David J f ENG 2319 0 1987
76 Brown, Simon D f ENG 2317 0 1960
77 Thomas, Ian m ENG 2315 0 1967
78 Duncan, Chris R f ENG 2314 0 1970
79 Bigg, Andrew J f ENG 2313 0 1982
79 Dickenson, Neil F f ENG 2313 0 1964
81 Beaumont, Chris R m ENG 2308 0 1952
82 Carleton, John J ENG 2307 0 1948
82 Richardson, John R f ENG 2307 0 1964
84 Constantinou, Peter f ENG 2301 6 1988
84 Hague, Ben f ENG 2301 0 1973
86 Tozer, Richard J D m ENG 2297 9 1970
86 Kenworthy, Gary f ENG 2297 0 1957
88 Wiley, Tom E f ENG 2296 34 1963
88 Bisby, Daniel L f ENG 2296 9 1978
88 Webb, Laurence E f ENG 2296 4 1970
88 Martyn, Rafe f ENG 2296 1 1986
92 Moskovic, David M f ENG 2293 0 1979
93 Savage, Ben D M f ENG 2289 0 1977
94 Roberson, Peter T ENG 2286 6 1989
94 Thomas, Nicholas f ENG 2286 0 1966
96 Baker, Chris W m ENG 2285 3 1958
96 McMichael, Richard J c ENG 2285 0 1961
98 Haydon, David L ENG 2283 13 1988
99 Lewis, Andrew P f ENG 2281 0 1960
100 Whiteley, Andrew J m ENG 2280 0 1947

[David Robertson]

From the list:

19 players under 30 years old
22 players over 50 years old

In Top 20, four players under 30 years old

[Leonard Barden]

How many under 20? makes the point in sharper focus.

[LozCooper]

How many under 20? makes the point in sharper focus.

http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2987

[Mark Howitt]

England definitely needs more good young players. Of that under 20 list there's only one who's shown real 'promise' so far...

[David Shepherd]

I think I must be looking at the wrong list - true they may not all become world champions, but if you think there is only 1 player on that link that will become a GM, I think you are mistaken. Would the real promise for example be the one thats about to become and IM or maybe the one that finished 11 and then 12th in the European youth championships etc....

[LozCooper]

England definitely needs more good young players. Of that under 20 list there's only one who's shown real 'promise' so far...

You clearly don't know much about Matthew Wadsworth, Ravi Haria, Isaac Sanders, Tarun Malhotra, Anna Wang, Amy Hoare, Marcus Harvey, Peter Williams, James Holland, Brandon Clarke and I could name many more. We have lots of very talented young players but are sadly unable to offer them as many opportunities in terms of playing tournaments, coaching and financial support that I would like.

[Mark Howitt]

I haven't got as much time to geek up on chess as I used to.... but of that list I'd say one has a reasonable chance of being a GM, of the others I'd say most have less than 50% chance- Peter Williams is the only one who might make it based on results so far. That's what I meant by 'promise' although that's not as far as 'world beating talent' like Adams or Short had.

Harsh, but English chess does need to have a long hard look at itself in the way it attracts young players.

[Mark Howitt]

I actually made that other comment before reading Mr Shepherd's lol. Yep, by 'promise' I meant being a GM which in today's chess world means 'good player'- not enough to make a good living though unless you're 2650 or over! I'd put money on any on that list apart from Williams and Zhou not making it to GM- at the very least not until they're in their 30s unless the GM title is watered down EVEN more!!

[Richard Bates]

I haven't got as much time to geek up on chess as I used to.... but of that list I'd say one has a reasonable chance of being a GM, of the others I'd say most have less than 50% chance- Peter Williams is the only one who might make it based on results so far. That's what I meant by 'promise' although that's not as far as 'world beating talent' like Adams or Short had.

Harsh, but English chess does need to have a long hard look at itself in the way it attracts young players.

Half of that list are U13, and are far more likely to become GMs than Peter Williams IMO. Not quite sure what "results" you are referring to.

However 50% chance is setting the bar quite high it seems to me. After all, if you suggest the average chance is 15% (to pluck an alternative figure out of mid air) that still leaves a couple of them becoming GMs!

And you don't need to be a "World beater like Adams or Short" to become a GM these days.

[Mark Howitt]

Last geeky post then bed.

Let's have a look at the young players in China...

http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=CHN

Quite a bit of promise there.

It's quite simple what English chess needs to do.

They need to take the young chess players away from their homes, and hot house them! That's the 21st century way

Never will happen, that's why countries like Ukraine and China will have a lot more good young players in future.

We're doing well in poker though! I think some smart kids might just take a look at the young British pros making millions and make a calculated decision on which brings more social status......

[Richard Bates]

Last geeky post then bed.

Let's have a look at the young players in China...

http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=CHN

Quite a bit of promise there.

Not convinced that quoting a country with 3 billion people but only 100 rated over 2150 really makes your point, but there we are...

[Jonathan Rogers]

Last geeky post then bed.

Let's have a look at the young players in China...

http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=CHN

Quite a bit of promise there.

Not convinced that quoting a country with 3 billion people but only 100 rated over 2150 really makes your point, but there we are...

I suppose it does make the point about their hothousing their best players. I am not sure whether Mr Howitt is serious about suggesting that we do the same. I certainly find it difficult to take a number of his posts, including those on this thread, very seriously.

[Thomas Rendle]

Perhaps Mark should've given the link to Dutch top 100. Population just over 16M.
http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=NED

I agree his posts probably shouldn't be taken too seriously. It would certainly be nice if some of our strong juniors became GMs but most will probably end up doing other things, which is fine.

[Mark Howitt]

Last geeky post then bed.

Let's have a look at the young players in China...

http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=CHN

Quite a bit of promise there.

Not convinced that quoting a country with 3 billion people but only 100 rated over 2150 really makes your point, but there we are...

Which country would that be? China has a population of 1.3 billion people. To say they had no 'chess culture' thirty years ago I think they've made quite big strides.... and a look at the Ukranian list, with a population of less than England, would also make interesting reading...