Tromso World Cup 2013

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Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:47 pm

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Andrew Bak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:24 am

I can imagine that there will be a lot of upsets as they are only 2-game matches followed by rapid and blitz.

It seems curious to me that seed 1 always played seed 128, 2 vs 127 etc at these World Cups. Why can't they do a similar seeding system to Wimbledon where Seed 1 plays anyone from seed 65-128?

Perhaps in reality the ratings and ability of most of these players are so close that it makes little difference in the long run.

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:11 am

Preview with details including schedule, pairings and time control here
http://www.chessvibes.com/fide-world-cu ... -on-sunday

and with good photos here
http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 80813.aspx
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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Greg Breed » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:10 am

Gawain Jones (seeded 72) has a tough journey! Assuming he wins all his games and faces the top seed from other games he would have:
Round / Seed / Name / Country / FIDE grade
1) 57. A. Shimanov (RUS) 2655
2) 8. G. Kamsky (USA) 2741
3) 25. D. Navara (CZE) 2715
4) 9. S. Mamedyarov (AZE) 2775
5) 1. L. Aronian (ARM) 2813
6) 4. A. Grischuk (RUS) 2785
7) 2. F. Caruana (ITA) 2796

Mickey Adams, being seeded higher at 14 would seemingly have a slightly easier start:
Round / Seed / Name / Country / FIDE grade
1) 115. Wan Yunguo (CHN) 2512
2) 51. Y. Kryvoruchko (UKR) 2678
3) 19. V. Ivanchuk (UKR) 2731
4) 3. V. Kramnik (RUS) 2784
5) 6. H. Nakamura (USA) 2772
6) 2. F. Caruana (ITA) 2796
7) 1. L. Aronian (ARM) 2813

and because they are opposite sides of the draw if they do win all their games they will meet in the final!! :D
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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Andrew Bak » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:55 pm

What happens if Aronian and Caruana meet in the final and both get their tickets to the Candidates via the World Cup - as they will likely get into the Candidates by rating alone.

Would the semi-finalists get their Candidates spots or would it be people lower down in the rating list than those two?

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Steven Gardner » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:08 pm

Andrew Bak wrote:What happens if Aronian and Caruana meet in the final and both get their tickets to the Candidates via the World Cup - as they will likely get into the Candidates by rating alone.

Would the semi-finalists get their Candidates spots or would it be people lower down in the rating list than those two?
According to the all knowing wikipedia, Aronian and Kramnik have already booked their place in the 2014 candidates based on their average rating from August 2012 to July 2013. If either get to the final then Karjakin is the next in line and if both then Radjabov will also qualify by rating instead.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ches ... nship_2014

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:23 pm

http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/regsc ... es2014.pdf

The 2 World Cup finalists qualify for the Candidates

If either of them manage second in the Grand Prix (given Topalov is first in the GP, and not playing in the WC), then the third in the GP qualifies - we are likely talking here about Mamedyarov, Caruana or Grischuk finishing second and third, there are other possibilities

If either of the WC finalists are Aronian or Kramnik, who both qualify by rating for the Candidates once they play in the WC, then Karjakin gets in by rating - if the WC final is Aronian v Kramnik, then Karjakin qualifies along with Radjabov, as Steven says, as far as I know
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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:49 pm

Games start at 2pm our time

http://www.chessworldcup2013.com/live
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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:55 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Games start at 2pm our time

http://www.chessworldcup2013.com/live
Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.chessworldcup2013.com :(

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:05 pm

According to chessbomb, the start is delayed by 15 minutes due to the long queue for player security checks.....

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:06 pm

It was working fine (and in Google Chrome) when I posted the link :roll:

Looked nice before anyone arrived :)
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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Simon Ansell » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:07 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Games start at 2pm our time

http://www.chessworldcup2013.com/live
Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to http://www.chessworldcup2013.com :(
This always happens, how hard is it for FIDE to do some load testing FFS...?

Does anyone have a direct link to the video commentary on livestream or whatever service they're using?

edit: i found it: http://new.livestream.com/cisha/wcc2013 ... &cat=event

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Andrew Camp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:12 pm

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:16 pm

Wow, Lawrence is letting someone else get a word in :lol:

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Re: Tromso World Cup 2013

Post by Simon Ansell » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:18 pm