I have no clue as to whether there is any significance in the implementation date.New regulations for registration and licensing approved by PB4/2014 come to effect on 1st April. Please note that from 1st April, all new players registered must give an email address to be properly registered. That means all new (non-registered) players in tournaments that will be rated after March 31st have to have an email address. Failure to do so will mean that the tournament will not be rated.
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I do not know what Kaloumenos intends to do with your email address, but I would be very sympathetic to anyone who thought it might be something that they would prefer not to be done. For now, there is nothing to suggest that you cannot use the federation's email address, or indeed [email protected]. If you want to send a message, you could try something along the lines of [email protected]. If I hear of any measures to deter such behaviour I shall post again.
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Sorry, I just started a similar topic. Can we combine somehow?
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Isn't this something of a climbdown? I thought they were planning to require passport details, bank statements, and personal medical records.
And while I'm on the matter, e-mail is sooo yesterday. Young people, certainly in US & UK, are shifting onto other platforms (eg Facebook,Twitter, Snapchat). They may not have email accounts.
And while I'm on the matter, e-mail is sooo yesterday. Young people, certainly in US & UK, are shifting onto other platforms (eg Facebook,Twitter, Snapchat). They may not have email accounts.
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Do we assume the FIDE President has given this his blessing?NickFaulks quoting Michalis Kaloumenos wrote: Please note that from 1st April, all new players registered must give an email address to be properly registered. That means all new (non-registered) players in tournaments that will be rated after March 31st have to have an email address.
It's easily circumvented by giving a fake, unused or something else's address. But what is it about chess officials that they delight in finding ways to discourage participation in chess events?
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Thanks, thought I had got in a mess doing the same on my phone then!IM Jack Rudd wrote:Topics merged.
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You always say that, and I always reply that I don't imagine he has the vaguest idea of what is going on. I expect somebody said it would be a good idea if FIDE knew its members' email addresses so it could communicate with them, and he said yes that did sound like a good idea.Roger de Coverly wrote: Do we assume the FIDE President has given this his blessing?
This is not about discouraging chess, it is about getting hold of a potentially valuable database. If it is then abused, I would be very surprised if FIDE, or its President, saw the benefit.
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That probably makes sense - there is at least a plausible reason for doing it. The English bridge union gets e-mails when you register, because you then register with a few online services they do etc. ECF do too, for the charging of course.
Having said that, I can't imagine this going down anything other than awfully. Might actually want to be slightly careful about fakes just in case they'll be using it to confirm registrations as being authentic....
Having said that, I can't imagine this going down anything other than awfully. Might actually want to be slightly careful about fakes just in case they'll be using it to confirm registrations as being authentic....
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That is certainly the plan, but it may take a while to implement. Is it really true that you cannot be an ECF or EBU member without supplying an email address?MartinCarpenter wrote:That probably makes sense - there is at least a plausible reason for doing it. The English bridge union gets e-mails when you register, because you then register with a few online services they do etc. ECF do too, for the charging of course.
Having said that, I can't imagine this going down anything other than awfully. Might actually want to be slightly careful about fakes just in case they'll be using it to confirm registrations as being authentic....
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As we are reminded every time there is a FIDE election, FIDE is a organisation whose members are national Federations. As such FIDE already should know its members' email addresses and if it wants to communicate directly with the world of chess players, it can do so through national Federations.NickFaulks wrote: I expect somebody said it would be a good idea if FIDE knew its members' email addresses
But as David Robertson points out, not everyone has an email address. That's both the traditionalists who won't have anything to do with computers or similar devices and youngsters who have moved on to other forms of personal communication. As any email address that becomes circulated becomes a target for advertising , phishing and other malware, there are good reasons for non-disclosure.
The Commission presumably responsible for this are here
http://www.fide.com/fide/directory/fide ... =committee
Rating regulations are under the Qualification Commission
http://www.fide.com/fide/directory/fide ... =committee
I would have thought random threats not to rate tournaments should be at least in part a responsibility of the Qualification Commission.
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There are various routes to being an ECF member without disclosing a personal email address. The ECF has been very cautious about making use of the addresses it has harvested. Perhaps it realises that it hasn't actually got an address that will link to an individual's attention as opposed to a spam trap.NickFaulks wrote: That is certainly the plan, but it may take a while to implement. Is it really true that you cannot be an ECF or EBU member without supplying an email address?
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As you can imagine, I have made that point with considerable force.Roger de Coverly wrote: I would have thought random threats not to rate tournaments should be at least in part a responsibility of the Qualification Commission.
We should not forget that for FIDE to have a way to communicate with individual players is in principle not a bad thing. Stewart Reuben has argued for years that it would be nice, for instance, to be able to send a personal note of congratulation to players who have gained a title. What is objectionable and unnecessary is the element of compulsion. You would not make this compulsory unless you were intending to abuse the data.
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