2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:15 pm

Mick Norris wrote: Carl has won, for his 4th IM norm; do we know what his highest ever rating was?
Looks like 2329 in May 2013.

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:19 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mick Norris wrote: Carl has won, for his 4th IM norm; do we know what his highest ever rating was?
Looks like 2329 in May 2013.
https://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=616753 His rating yo-yos almost as much as Jack's :shock:

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Alexander Hardwick » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:55 pm

the CCF website wrote:
UPDATE 7.54pm - McPhillips (white) to move with Ke6, Nf1. Fernandez Ke4, Pf2, Pf5.

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:06 pm

Alexander Hardwick wrote:
the CCF website wrote:
UPDATE 7.54pm - McPhillips (white) to move with Ke6, Nf1. Fernandez Ke4, Pf2, Pf5.
Drawn according to the website so an IM norm for Joseph and three rating points needed for Daniel.

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:01 pm

That's great news, well done Joe
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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:13 pm

Serbian League:

Round 1:

4.1 GM Rublevsky, Sergei 2683 - IM Fernandez, Daniel Howard 2497 ½ - ½

Round 2:

3.1 IM Fernandez, Daniel Howard 2497 - GM Strikovic, Aleksa 2502 ½ - ½

Rating gain 2.4 + 0.1 = 2499.5 :)

http://www.chess-results.com/tnr300089. ... YES&wi=984

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GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:16 pm

Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?
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Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?
I believe so, yes. To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Stewart Reuben » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:32 pm

Congratulaions to Daniel.
Even if his rating dropes down, h has gained the rating. I see no advantage to stop playing. If there is an error, and he is below 2499.5, then not playing will not help.
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Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:46 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?
I believe so, yes. To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
:D
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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:49 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:Congratulaions to Daniel.
Even if his rating dropes down, h has gained the rating. I see no advantage to stop playing. If there is an error, and he is below 2499.5, then not playing will not help.
It's his choice and one I respect. In terms of admin it's quicker to point to a published rating rather than having to send in the calculations, albeit it's only two games in this case. The title application is already submitted, albeit at the time it was dependent on subsequently reaching 2500.

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Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:16 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.
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Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:23 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.
It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.

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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Post by E Michael White » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:39 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.
I suggest the strategy has more to it than that.

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Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Post by DFernandez » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:59 am

Alex Holowczak wrote:
NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.
It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.
You are right. But that may be because the rules are difficult to understand. From where I'm at, neither title regulation 1.53 nor the rating regulations make it clear that live ratings can be rounded (for the purposes of an application, or otherwise) whereas published ones, by definition, have been rounded. So applying for the title using a live rating of 2499.5 may not satisfy the 'greater than or equal to 2500' rule. (Indeed, it should not.) If my live were 2500.0 I would have no issue playing on.

For what it is worth, I would much prefer to have my reading comprehension skills questioned than to run the risk of having my application thrown out on a technicality; other forum members or players are free to make their own decisions if faced with the same question themselves, but I put it to you that most people would choose the 100% option (unless their team captain in the Serbian league was putting a gun to their head and making them play on.)

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