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Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:15 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Mick Norris wrote: Carl has won, for his 4th IM norm; do we know what his highest ever rating was?
Looks like 2329 in May 2013.

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:19 pm
by LawrenceCooper
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mick Norris wrote: Carl has won, for his 4th IM norm; do we know what his highest ever rating was?
Looks like 2329 in May 2013.
https://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=616753 His rating yo-yos almost as much as Jack's :shock:

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:55 pm
by Alexander Hardwick
the CCF website wrote:
UPDATE 7.54pm - McPhillips (white) to move with Ke6, Nf1. Fernandez Ke4, Pf2, Pf5.

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:06 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Alexander Hardwick wrote:
the CCF website wrote:
UPDATE 7.54pm - McPhillips (white) to move with Ke6, Nf1. Fernandez Ke4, Pf2, Pf5.
Drawn according to the website so an IM norm for Joseph and three rating points needed for Daniel.

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:01 pm
by Mick Norris
That's great news, well done Joe

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:13 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Serbian League:

Round 1:

4.1 GM Rublevsky, Sergei 2683 - IM Fernandez, Daniel Howard 2497 ½ - ½

Round 2:

3.1 IM Fernandez, Daniel Howard 2497 - GM Strikovic, Aleksa 2502 ½ - ½

Rating gain 2.4 + 0.1 = 2499.5 :)

http://www.chess-results.com/tnr300089. ... YES&wi=984

GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:16 pm
by Mick Norris
Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?

Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:20 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Mick Norris wrote:Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?
I believe so, yes. To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:32 pm
by Stewart Reuben
Congratulaions to Daniel.
Even if his rating dropes down, h has gained the rating. I see no advantage to stop playing. If there is an error, and he is below 2499.5, then not playing will not help.

Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:46 pm
by Mick Norris
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Thanks Loz

As 2499.5 gets rounded up to 2500, does that mean Dan has done it?
I believe so, yes. To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
:D

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:49 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Stewart Reuben wrote:Congratulaions to Daniel.
Even if his rating dropes down, h has gained the rating. I see no advantage to stop playing. If there is an error, and he is below 2499.5, then not playing will not help.
It's his choice and one I respect. In terms of admin it's quicker to point to a published rating rather than having to send in the calculations, albeit it's only two games in this case. The title application is already submitted, albeit at the time it was dependent on subsequently reaching 2500.

Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:16 pm
by NickFaulks
LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.

Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:23 pm
by Alex Holowczak
NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.
It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.

Re: 2nd GM norm for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:39 pm
by E Michael White
Alex Holowczak wrote:It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.
I suggest the strategy has more to it than that.

Re: GM rating for Daniel Fernandez

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:59 am
by DFernandez
Alex Holowczak wrote:
NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:To be on the ultra safe side he's not planning on playing any further games on the October rating list.
Quite extraordinary.
It does rather suggest he's failed to understand the rules.
You are right. But that may be because the rules are difficult to understand. From where I'm at, neither title regulation 1.53 nor the rating regulations make it clear that live ratings can be rounded (for the purposes of an application, or otherwise) whereas published ones, by definition, have been rounded. So applying for the title using a live rating of 2499.5 may not satisfy the 'greater than or equal to 2500' rule. (Indeed, it should not.) If my live were 2500.0 I would have no issue playing on.

For what it is worth, I would much prefer to have my reading comprehension skills questioned than to run the risk of having my application thrown out on a technicality; other forum members or players are free to make their own decisions if faced with the same question themselves, but I put it to you that most people would choose the 100% option (unless their team captain in the Serbian league was putting a gun to their head and making them play on.)