Bilbao Masters

[Barry Sandercock]

Giri winning now (m0ve 23)

[Tim Harding]

Giri winning now (move 23)

Just got home. Can anyone explain whether Anand really played 25...Re2?? (as indicated by both chess24 and chessdom) and Giri didn't take the R?

It seems the score must be incorrect?

[JustinHorton]

But how else would the rook then get to a2?

I find it odd that Anand gave up when he did.

[Tim Harding]

But how else would the rook then get to a2?

I find it odd that Anand gave up when he did.

Seems like White's 24th move has been corrected (Qa5 not Qb5).

Gustafsson thinks Vishy lost on time.

He also points out that Giri is certain to qualify for the Candidates now.

[JustinHorton]

Yeah, both of those would make sense. Chess24.com has been a bit funny in the last couple of days, especially where clocks were concerned. I couldn't follow Ding-Giri at all yesterday, it wouldn't update.

[Tim Harding]

Yeah, both of those would make sense. Chess24.com has been a bit funny in the last couple of days, especially where clocks were concerned. I couldn't follow Ding-Giri at all yesterday, it wouldn't update.

I think they had (still have?) a problem with the sensory boards in Bilbao.
The same nonsense moves were shown there that i commented upon at the time; somebody fixed it and then at move 119 the board stopped working. Can't blame the chess24 people in Hamburg for this, as they just get a relay.

Bilbao coverage was flaky last year too. At the crisis in the Ding-Giri game it was shockingly bad.

They had three cameras on the board from different angles (none of which showed the position clearly or the clock at all visibly) but most of the time they were just showing Leonxto Garcia & co packing up as if their work was already done. (No overtime pay there evidently.) And the tv coverage was just on "Auto" switching between these views.

[David Sedgwick]

Can anyone explain whether Anand really played 25...Re2?? (as indicated by both chess24 and chessdom) and Giri didn't take the R?

It seems the score must be incorrect?

But how else would the rook then get to a2?

The score was originally given as 24 Qa5, Kh7; 25 Qb5, Re2; 26 g4, Ra2; 27 f3, Re8.

This has now been corrected to 24 Qa5, Kh7; 25 f3, Re2; 26 Qb5, Ra2; 27 g4, Re8, which is of course far more plausible.

[JustinHorton]

It is, though it begs the question of how the White moves came to appear in the wrong order.

[Angus French]

It is, though it begs the question of how the White moves came to appear in the wrong order.

If the link to the electronic boards broke down maybe the moves were manually added to the pgn file (and thus incorrectly transcribed)?

[David Sedgwick]

It is, though it begs the question of how the White moves came to appear in the wrong order.

If the link to the electronic boards broke down maybe the moves were manually added to the pgn file (and thus incorrectly transcribed)?

If contact is lost temporarily between the DGT board and the controlling computer, the system guesses how to reach the position on the board when contact is restored. Sometimes it gets it wrong.

Something similar to the Bilbao incident occurred one year at the London Chess Classic, when McShane appeared to have missed a trivial win of a pawn against Carlsen.

Resouurces permitting, it's good arbiting practice to check the live feed against the players' scoresheets immediately the game finishes.

It looks as though the Bilbao arbiters did that.

[Carl Hibbard]

It would be quite at interesting job at DGT to be honest.

[JustinHorton]

It is, though it begs the question of how the White moves came to appear in the wrong order.

If the link to the electronic boards broke down maybe the moves were manually added to the pgn file (and thus incorrectly transcribed)?

If contact is lost temporarily between the DGT board and the controlling computer, the system guesses how to reach the position on the board when contact is restored. Sometimes it gets it wrong.

That's interesting, thanks. Problem is of course that once you know that, you're all the time going to be wondering if what you're seeing is really what happened...