Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:15 pm

Ray Sayers wrote:Yes, black can cover the e5 and b6 entry points by allowing bxa5. Only just, but that is enough!
That's what the chessbomb stockfish indicated as the continuation. There's a premise, if an engine tells you that a position is lost in a King and pawn ending, it's almost certainly right. If it tells you that there are drawing chances, perhaps it hasn't analysed far enough.

The chessbomb engine rates the queen trade as the fourth choice, with keeping the queens on by Qf8 or Qe7 or d4 the higher choices.

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:13 pm

Magnus drew fairly quickly with black today, Fabiano may well win but then would have to beat Tomashevsky with black while relying on Ding with black to at least hold Magnus in the final round
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Barry Sandercock » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:28 pm

Caruana won.

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:45 pm

As did Ding to make it a 3 horse race in theory

Carlsen (8.5) - Ding Liren (7.5)
Tomashevsky - Caruana (8)

A win would take Caruana above 2800 into second on the rating list
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:47 pm

Mick Norris wrote:As did Ding to make it a 3 horse race in theory

Carlsen (8.5) - Ding Liren (7.5)
Tomashevsky - Caruana (8)

A win would take Caruana above 2800 into second on the rating list
Should be a nice conclusion as a bit duller today.
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:51 pm

The chess24 unofficial coverage of the event well with Svidler which was excellent only seems to have lasted a couple of rounds which was a shame.
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:35 pm

I caught a bit today of Svidler; always entertaining
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:25 am

Well today is one way to put complaints about Berlin Defences to bed...

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Barry Sandercock » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:33 am

Carlsen's game and Adam's game, positions identical at move 20.

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:41 am

Barry Sandercock wrote:Carlsen's game and Adam's game, positions identical at move 20.
Started early whoops missed that thanks.
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:44 am

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Barry Sandercock wrote:Carlsen's game and Adam's game, positions identical at move 20.
Started early whoops missed that thanks.
Me too - Svidler on chess24 again too

I can't see anything other than an outright Magnus victory from here, as expected given there is no tiebreak for him to win :lol:
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:48 am

Barry Sandercock wrote:Carlsen's game and Adam's game, positions identical at move 20.


Engines don't seem bothered and GMs know better, but wouldn't many players just assess the ending as "dodgy" because of the weak e6 pawn?


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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:57 pm

Caruana and Karjakin both seem to be in some bother......

EDIT: the latter managed to draw not long after - Fab still struggling, though.
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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:44 pm

Carlsen has the Arkell ending...

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Re: Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee 15-31 January 2016

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:56 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:Carlsen has the Arkell ending...
Move 62, Black to move, it's still at the stage where everything draws apart from putting the Rook en prise or falling into a discovery



Edit, it looks as if the defender is intending to use the stalemate rook sacrifice defence.



Rd2 draws

Edit, and this is how it finished



Carlsen took the Rook rather than play out the ten or so remaining moves to the 50 move draw.