Norway 16-29 April 2016

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:32 pm

Topalov and Giri draw. Aronian beating Eljanov, other games undecided as yet.
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:24 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:This looks (move 17) like the sort of position where Magnus could grind out a win.


It's a line of the Exchange Variation that Nigel Short and doubtless Kramnik think is OK for Black, arguing that the Bishop pair compensates for the dodgy pawns.

I think chessbomb's Stockfish doesn't really know what should be played. The four displayed choices (move 18) give a white advantage ranging from 0.60 to 0.67, all about the same effectively.
Suggested improvements after the game were 12... f5 and then take on h4, 13...Nc8-d6 is possible but as white has control of f5 it won't be much fun for black. After 14...Na4 black is in trouble as he can't take on b2 and will inevitably lose time and the c5 break speeded up things for white. Magnus commented that after 16 moves the position play itself and its hard to screw up. The Ne2 plan was the idea of Jon-Ludvig Hammer.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:42 am

chess.com report has some analysis of the Magnus - Vlad game
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:35 pm

Nothing against Carlsen; but I am delighted for Aronian! I imagine that many of us feel like that.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by MJMcCready » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:37 pm

Yes. so Bxe5 was a mistake? I thought it looked okay at the time but didn't analyze it.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:01 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:Nothing against Carlsen; but I am delighted for Aronian! I imagine that many of us feel like that.
Seconded, he's had many a good position against Carlsen without converting so it's nice to see him finally manage it.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:15 pm

Prior to today, Aronian's most recent win over Carlsen in classical chess was at Linares 2009.
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by MJMcCready » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:26 pm

Good for him, they need to reign Carlsen in a bit I think.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by AustinElliott » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:16 am

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Prior to today, Aronian's most recent win over Carlsen in classical chess was at Linares 2009.
Does the nice game Aronian won in the European Team Championship last year not count?

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Steven DuCharme » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:04 am

Tal's unbeaten streak record survives another day
I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight :mrgreen:

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:45 am

How long a streak had Carlsen been on?

(EDIT: found it: "Few things in chess could upstage the current World Champion losing his first classical game in 43". Also: here: "MVL is on an unbeaten streak too. Before yesterday he and Carlsen both had unbeaten streaks of 42 games. Carlsen lost yesterday, but MVL did not, so he has 43 now.")

Interesting piece here (from a year ago) on Carlsen's supertournament record:

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/carlse ... ent-record

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:39 pm

chess.com report with some analysis of Carlsen-Aronian

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from which:
Round 8 Standings: Aronian, Carlsen 5pts, Vachier-Lagrave, Topalov, Kramnik 4.5pts, Li Chao, Harikrishna 4pts, Giri 3.5pts, Eljanov 3pts, Grandelius 2pts.

Round 9 pairings 29th April 2016 3pm I will be hosting commentary with Alex Yermolinsky on ICC: Grandelius-Vachier-Lagrave, Carlsen-Eljanov, Topalov-Kramnik, Harikrishna-Aronian, Li Chao-Giri.
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:03 pm

AustinElliott wrote:
Matt Mackenzie wrote:Prior to today, Aronian's most recent win over Carlsen in classical chess was at Linares 2009.
Does the nice game Aronian won in the European Team Championship last year not count?
Ah yes, good point. Not sure how I forgot that one, tbh :)
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:22 pm

Carlsen beats Eljanov in the final round, all other games drawn. Which means he finally ends his "home" hoodoo ;)

Even more remarkable, though - it appears Kramnik and Topalov actually talked to each other after their game :shock:
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