Norway 16-29 April 2016

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Chris Rice » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:47 am

In addition to the above the Norwegian organisers are clearly furious at Karjakin's decision and have made a statement about his "disrespect". http://norwaychess.no/en/2016/04/06/dis ... -karjakin/

It is unclear at the moment whether Karjakin actually signed a contract (via email) or his participation was agreed by word of mouth and if the latter, whether it would be binding.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:16 am

Chris Rice wrote:On his open Facebook page, Emil Sutovsky, the ACP President is not at all happy with Karjakin's decision and he does have a point:
Is there not a history here? Karjakin was excluded from last year's event when it became part of the Grand Chess Tour, despite being the winner of the previous year's event. He perhaps feels he doesn't owe the organisers any favours.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:24 am

Chris Rice wrote:In addition to the above the Norwegian organisers are clearly furious at Karjakin's decision and have made a statement about his "disrespect".
It appears the Russian Chess Federation can still maintain Soviet levels of control over its players, with the notification being sent not by the player, but by the Federation. For a tournament that isn't an official FIDE one, I wouldn't expect the player's Federation to be involved.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:54 am

Roger de Coverly wrote: I wouldn't expect the player's Federation to be involved.
I expect they are just doing him a favour, deflecting any unpleasantness away from their World Championship challenger.
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:04 pm

http://rules.fide.com/images/stories/do ... -April.pdf

Clause 9.1:
"Conduct of the Players
9.1 Once a player has formally accepted an invitation, he must play except in exceptional
circumstances (force majeure), such as illness or incapacity. Acceptance of another
invitation is not considered to be a valid reason for not participating or for withdrawing."

Perhaps this means FIDE could sanction him in some way though it's hardly likely this will happen.

I agree that part of Karjakin's motivation was probably to get Norway Chess back for excluding him last year.
He certainly can't expect ever to be invited in future and other organisers are likely to feel the same way.

Nevertheless it now means that I (and probably lots of other people) will be hoping Carlsen hammers him in the match.
After that happens Karjakin may find invitations to super-tournaments outside Russia will tend to dry up...
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:00 pm

Isn't he very likely being honest rather than vengeful?

It would be no surprise if he was very tired indeed after winning the candidates and the WC match definitely isn't an enternity away.
(Even the world cup from last October might not be helping!).

How popular it makes him might be another matter.

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:06 pm

Reportedly he had "only" made a verbal agreement to play there, which does arguably make SK's decision more legitimate.
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:59 pm

[Grand Chess Tour organizer Malcolm Pein bluntly rejects the official reason provided by the Russian: "Preparation ? Nah - he's just chickening out - pathetic, pleased we didn't invite him to Grand Chess Tour"]

Did Malcolm ever explain why Karjakin wasn't invited to the GCT in the first place? (Perhaps he did, I don't know, but I am sure someone on this forum will be able to tell me if he did)

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:00 pm

Chris Rice wrote:In addition to the above the Norwegian organisers are clearly furious at Karjakin's decision and have made a statement about his "disrespect". http://norwaychess.no/en/2016/04/06/dis ... -karjakin/

It is unclear at the moment whether Karjakin actually signed a contract (via email) or his participation was agreed by word of mouth and if the latter, whether it would be binding.
It alleges "– Karjakin has a signed contract with us and it does not state that he can withdraw from the tournament if he qualifies for the World Championship in November"

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:41 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Chris Rice wrote:On his open Facebook page, Emil Sutovsky, the ACP President is not at all happy with Karjakin's decision and he does have a point:
Is there not a history here? Karjakin was excluded from last year's event when it became part of the Grand Chess Tour, despite being the winner of the previous year's event. He perhaps feels he doesn't owe the organisers any favours.
Yes, that's what I thought (I don't have sympathy with Karjakin, but that doesn't mean the organisers are right)
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:42 am

Li Chao has postponed his wedding and replaces Karjakin

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:10 pm

It has been mentioned that Glenn Flear was a last minute stand in for London (GLC) 1986, and had to rearrange his upcoming wedding.

We surely all know what happened subsequently. An omen? ;)
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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Stewart Reuben » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:25 pm

Matt >
It has been mentioned that Glenn Flear was a last minute stand in for London (GLC) 1986, and had to rearrange his upcoming wedding.<

Incorrect. Glenn got married on the scheduled date whch was a rest day in the tournament. He had, no doubt, to alter his honeymoon plans. His preparation for the event was mainly travelling back to London from somewhere abroad.

For those who don't know, it was a fary tale. Glenn was the only non-GM in the tournament. He won it and, of course, secured a GM norm. Sadly, he did not also win the Best Game Prize!

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:43 pm

The pre tournament blitz is underway here: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tourn ... 2016/1/1/1

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Re: Norway 16-29 April 2016

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:53 pm

Round 1 draw for the main event:

Carlsen-Harikrishna
Giri - Eljanov
MVL - Chao Li
Kramnik - Grandelius
Aronian - Topalo
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