Women's World Championship match

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Bob Clark
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Bob Clark » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:50 pm

David Robertson wrote:
@ Bob Clark: I don't think so
Well I think you are going to struggle to prove its a draw after 23 fxg4.
Having just checked it on Shredder it seems that white is definitely winning!

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:58 pm

Bob Clark wrote:
David Robertson wrote:
@ Bob Clark: I don't think so
Well I think you are going to struggle to prove its a draw after 23 fxg4.
Having just checked it on Shredder it seems that white is definitely winning!
You must have set up the wrong position. After 23 fxg4 Black mates in two starting Qc1+.
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Barry Sandercock » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:45 am

Today is a rest day. I see there are six rest days for ten games. Seems quite a lot.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:15 am

Same schedule as other WC matches

Play 2 days then rest day, repeat until 2 games left when there is a rest day after penultimate game

Seems reasonable to me though a slightly longer match would be better if it could be financed
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:30 am

Mick Norris wrote: Play 2 days then rest day, repeat until 2 games left when there is a rest day after penultimate game
The "traditional" schedule, think Fischer-Spassky and Kasparov-Short had been three days play and four days "rest". Add to that the facility of players and sometimes organisers to take time-outs and you got the near farce of the first Karpov-Kasparov match where they would turn up about once a week and play a twenty move draw in a couple of hours.

Admittedly in the "old" days, if a game went past move 40, they would come back the next day to finish it after pausing overnight for analysis.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:33 pm

I'd rather not think back to matches lasting months and being full of acrimony to be honest

Apart from financial considerations, I'd like the Women's match to be the same duration as the main World Championship match, and indeed to have a similar qualifying schedule with a Candidates tournament rather than a World Cup format masquerading as a world championship
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:52 pm

Mick Norris wrote:I'd rather not think back to matches lasting months and being full of acrimony to be honest

Apart from financial considerations, I'd like the Women's match to be the same duration as the main World Championship match, and indeed to have a similar qualifying schedule with a Candidates tournament rather than a World Cup format masquerading as a world championship
The current Women's Grand Prix 2015-2016 is being used for that purpose. From the two completed events in this cycle we have had the following results:

http://monaco2015.fide.com/en/component ... view&kid=2
http://tehran2016.fide.com/en/component ... view&kid=2

with Batumi in April and Chengdu in July to complete the cycle.

https://www.fide.com/component/content/ ... -2016.html

A bit like the men/open we have a clear number one and then it's far from clear who is the next best player.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:37 pm

chess mind analysis of game 4
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by John McKenna » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:01 pm

In game 5 Hou, White twice in succession, has switched to the English -

1.c4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.Qa4 dc 6.Qc4 e5 7.d3 Ne7...

She is playing the opening more slowly than Muzychuk.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:06 pm

John McKenna wrote:In game 5 Hou, White twice in succession, has switched to the English -

1.c4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.Qa4 dc 6.Qc4 e5 7.d3 Ne7...

She is playing the opening more slowly than Muzychuk.
Commentary by Mikhalchishin and a WGM on chess24 at

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tourn ... 2016/1/1/5

Hou Yifan doesn't seem to have considered 8...Na6 when she prepared the rather strange Qa4.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:33 pm

Tim Harding wrote: Hou Yifan doesn't seem to have considered 8...Na6 when she prepared the rather strange Qa4.
8. .. Na6 seems to be a novelty, previously 8. .. O-O had been popular, if such conclusions can be drawn against a set of around 20 games.

The Qa4 idea pops up in a number of positions as an anti-Grunfeld, the idea being seemingly either to provoke dxc4 as in this game, or to prevent c6xd5 as a reply to cdxd5.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:37 pm

The game just ended in a draw.



Mariya seemed a little better at one point. At any rate she has survived the double Black and has White tomorrow.
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:38 pm

Another draw in just over 30 moves, so Hou Yifan is 1 up at halfway but having had an extra white
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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:42 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Another draw in just over 30 moves, so Hou Yifan is 1 up at halfway but having had an extra white
It's encouraging for Muzychuk to have neutralised the double white without any problems but now she has to try and win, or even a get position with chances, with the white pieces.

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Re: Women's World Championship match

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:08 pm

Lively game today in the Italian. It looks as if Mariya played the line (with Bg5) that she was thinking about for so long in Game 1.

EDITED COMMENTS:
Actually the move order was slightly different by Hou Yifan, delaying ...a6.
Muzychuk got well ahead on the clock.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tourn ... 2016/1/1/6

LATER: Hou Yifan may have slipped at move 18:

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