I think the initial piece sac was a draw (Qf3-g3-f3-g3 etc) but after Kh1 I think the game may continue.NickFaulks wrote:How so? Not obvious to me.JustinHorton wrote:Deffo a draw available if Black takes the piece
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You've already played 12...Kg7.
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Justin, I see we're talking about slightly different lines.
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Nick - yes, I was commenting (after Lawrence) on why David hadn't taken at the first attempt. As Lawrence says, it's now less clear.
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With Black hoping to win, 12...Kg7 was a good move.
edit : but it would have been even better to play it half an hour faster.
edit : but it would have been even better to play it half an hour faster.
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I've played quite a lot of Italian Games with Black and you're always having to reckon with this kind of set-up (often after ....g5 Nxg5). It's normally quite hard to see how Black can extricate himself while at the same time being not at all obvious how White makes progress....
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The story so far:-JustinHorton wrote: It's normally quite hard to see how Black can extricate himself while at the same time being not at all obvious how White makes progress....
The chessbomb stockfish is saying equal chances (+0.12) with its best line of 17. Nf1. A hair raising way to play for a win as Black, but we've seen David Howell play in that style often enough.
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Well, that was horrible.
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Inarkiev draws to come clear first on 9/11
Kovalenk wins with black to get clear second on 8.5
Navara, Jobava, Vallejo on 8
7.5 goes down to 26th place, so 3 will miss out on tiebreak for the World Cup spots
Gawain drew to join David on 6.5
Kovalenk wins with black to get clear second on 8.5
Navara, Jobava, Vallejo on 8
7.5 goes down to 26th place, so 3 will miss out on tiebreak for the World Cup spots
Gawain drew to join David on 6.5
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Tari becomes the youngest qualifier for the World Cup, but Bortnyk misses out along with Lupulescu and Ter-SahakyanMick Norris wrote: Tari and Bortnyk who have already drawn with white
1 Inarkiev Ernesto
2 Kovalenko Igor
3 Jobava Baadur
4 Navara David
5 Vallejo Pons Francisco
6 Wojtaszek Radoslaw
7 Piorun Kacper
8 Fressinet Laurent
9 Goganov Aleksey
10 Dubov Daniil
11 Vitiugov Nikita
12 Cheparinov Ivan
Najer Evgeniy
14 Hovhannisyan Robert
15 Zhigalko Sergei
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17 Salgado Lopez Ivan
18 Dreev Aleksey
19 Anton Guijarro David
20 Stupak Kirill
21 Nisipeanu Liviu-Dieter
22 Tari Aryan
23 Demchenko Anton
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SNo Name Rtg 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Pts. Rk. Rp K rtg+/-
18 GM Howell David W L 2671 ½ 1 0 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 0 6,5 57 2602 10 -8,40
27 GM Jones Gawain C B 2657 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 1 ½ 6,5 66 2584 10 -9,30
Disappointing for both, but hope they have another go next year
18 GM Howell David W L 2671 ½ 1 0 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 0 6,5 57 2602 10 -8,40
27 GM Jones Gawain C B 2657 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 1 ½ 6,5 66 2584 10 -9,30
Disappointing for both, but hope they have another go next year
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It's not unknown for wild card places to be given to those losing out on tie breaks. Presumably also they are first reserves if someone about them declines to participate in the World Cup, or qualifies in some other manner such as rating.Mick Norris wrote: but Bortnyk misses out along with Lupulescu and Ter-Sahakyan
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There aren't that many wild cards, and it depends who enters the World Cup as to who might get the rating spots I guess
Last time's regulations were:
There are 128 qualifiers (in order of priority): World Champion + four (4) semi-finalists from the World Cup
2013, Women's World Champion, World Junior U-20 Champions 2013 & 2014, eighteen (18) rated players as described in 3.1.2, ninety (92) players from Continental Championships, the one (1) highest-placed participant of the ACP Tour who has not qualified with the previous criteria, two (2) FIDE President nominees, four (4) organiser nominees , three (3) qualifiers from FIDE-approved internet events. If there are no internet events, the spot(s) will be decided by the FIDE President after consulting the WCOC.
3. 1. 2. For the purpose of deciding the 18 rated player qualifiers, as well as any replacements, the average from the following lists will be used: all published ratings of February 2014 to January 2015 divided by twelve (12). In case of equality two decimals will be taken into consideration. If the numbers are still equal then the total number of rated games in the twelve months of 2014 shall be decisive. That means the player with the greater number of games shall qualify. If the numbers are still equal then the February 2015 list shall be decisive. If the Elo in this list is still the same, the player with the greater number of games in the February 2015 list will qualify.
Last time's regulations were:
There are 128 qualifiers (in order of priority): World Champion + four (4) semi-finalists from the World Cup
2013, Women's World Champion, World Junior U-20 Champions 2013 & 2014, eighteen (18) rated players as described in 3.1.2, ninety (92) players from Continental Championships, the one (1) highest-placed participant of the ACP Tour who has not qualified with the previous criteria, two (2) FIDE President nominees, four (4) organiser nominees , three (3) qualifiers from FIDE-approved internet events. If there are no internet events, the spot(s) will be decided by the FIDE President after consulting the WCOC.
3. 1. 2. For the purpose of deciding the 18 rated player qualifiers, as well as any replacements, the average from the following lists will be used: all published ratings of February 2014 to January 2015 divided by twelve (12). In case of equality two decimals will be taken into consideration. If the numbers are still equal then the total number of rated games in the twelve months of 2014 shall be decisive. That means the player with the greater number of games shall qualify. If the numbers are still equal then the February 2015 list shall be decisive. If the Elo in this list is still the same, the player with the greater number of games in the February 2015 list will qualify.
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