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Tim Harding
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by Tim Harding » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:37 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:Christopher Kreuzer wrote:NickFaulks wrote:
I don't understand the end of that game, doesn't Ke4 just win?
Indeed. Strange if Keith played 53...Kxg3 and a lucky escape for him if that is what happened (and a missed chance for Koby). I can only think Koby was maybe in time trouble?
I wonder if white saw 54 Ke4 Ne1 55 h6 Nf3 and wasn't sure how to win from there (albeit 56 Nf5+ followed by Kf4 seems to do the trick).The other possibility is an error in transmission.
I'm only looking at this now and in the version of the game currently available at
http://www.hastingschess.com/live-games-201617/
the supposed winning move 54 Ke4 is not legal because the WK is on d2. So presumably the score you were looking at earlier was incorrect?
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Alex McFarlane
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by Alex McFarlane » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:45 pm
He was short of time ... might explain it.
Sean is adding more.
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shaunpress
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by shaunpress » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:46 pm
To avoid the curse of illegal Ke4/d4/d5/e5 moves we (the arbiters) are trying to be proactive and check the last move played as well as placing the kings the right way. Unfortunately we missed a couple ...
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LawrenceCooper
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by LawrenceCooper » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:15 pm
Tim Harding wrote:LawrenceCooper wrote:Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Indeed. Strange if Keith played 53...Kxg3 and a lucky escape for him if that is what happened (and a missed chance for Koby). I can only think Koby was maybe in time trouble?
I wonder if white saw 54 Ke4 Ne1 55 h6 Nf3 and wasn't sure how to win from there (albeit 56 Nf5+ followed by Kf4 seems to do the trick).The other possibility is an error in transmission.
I'm only looking at this now and in the version of the game currently available at
http://www.hastingschess.com/live-games-201617/
the supposed winning move 54 Ke4 is not legal because the WK is on d2. So presumably the score you were looking at earlier was incorrect?
The king was on e3 when checked on c2 so Ke4 is perfectly legal albeit it would be move 55, not 54.
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Roger de Coverly
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by Roger de Coverly » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:11 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
The king was on e3 when checked on c2 so Ke4 is perfectly legal albeit it would be move 55, not 54.
The stockfish at chessbomb reckons 55. Ke4 is winning. Even after 55. Kd2, it thinks White is a lot better. Perhaps White trusted Keith and thought he only had a draw, which according to the stockfish was the case not so many moves earlier.
For future readers here's the chessbomb version of the game.
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Alex Holowczak
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by Alex Holowczak » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:38 am
Nick Grey wrote:Is this pairing system likely to help with norms?
According to my notes, the object of the Baku system wasn't that per se, but it was to minimise the rating differences between the opponents; i.e. prevent large mismatches in the earlier rounds. Intuitively, a by-product of that is that norm opportunities would increase. In fact, we were informed that the system is better in this respect for all 9-round tournaments or longer.
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Michael Flatt
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by Michael Flatt » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:08 pm
Live commentary is by the ever enthusiastic GM Chris Ward. Very instructive to especially the younger players as might be expected from his coaching of the Kent Juniors. It's hard work for a single presenter but the interaction with the live audience is good.
Players from the tournament drop in to explain the thoughts they had during the game and yesterday (Friday) Matthew Sadler also visited and contributed to the discussion and analysis.
Every day Chris will feature the game by the 11 year old Indian IM, R Praggnanandhaa, whom he refers to as 'RP'.
There is something for everyone.
The broadcast is via Livestream which requires registration (confirmation by email):
http://www.hastingschess.com/live-commentary-4/
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Barry Sandercock
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by Barry Sandercock » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:18 pm
Round 4. Quick win by Keith Arkell.
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Roger de Coverly
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by Roger de Coverly » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:37 pm
Barry Sandercock wrote:Round 4. Quick win by Keith Arkell.
Here's the whole game
I was tempted to wonder what the opening is about, but by transposition it's a line known from the 1980s and 1990s. I would usually have played 5 . Qc1 as in 1. d4 d5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 c6 4. Nf3 Qb6 5. Qc1 to follow numerous Julian Hodgson games. 5. b3 is also played and was chosen by Anand against Karpov in 1998.
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Michael Flatt
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by Michael Flatt » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:59 pm
Chris's live commentary keeps breaking up. I guess that it must be down to a poor internet connection at the venue.
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David Clayton
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by David Clayton » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:38 pm
Michael Flatt wrote:Chris's live commentary keeps breaking up. I guess that it must be down to a poor internet connection at the venue.
Correct Michael.
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Christopher Kreuzer
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by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:44 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote:Barry Sandercock wrote:Round 4. Quick win by Keith Arkell.
Here's the whole game
I was tempted to wonder what the opening is about, but by transposition it's a line known from the 1980s and 1990s. I would usually have played 5 . Qc1 as in 1. d4 d5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 c6 4. Nf3 Qb6 5. Qc1 to follow numerous Julian Hodgson games. 5. b3 is also played and was chosen by Anand against Karpov in 1998.
Am surprised Black didn't try 16...Qf8. It is still winning for White, but that at least avoids immediate material loss. Though admittedly, looking at the resulting position, it is not one you would want to play on with even in an evening league match, let alone on a live board at Hastings against a grandmaster!
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Matt Mackenzie
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by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:02 pm
Yes, that is a classic "sod this, I've had enough already" resignation
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by John Upham » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:20 pm
Michael Flatt wrote:Chris's live commentary keeps breaking up. I guess that it must be down to a poor internet connection at the venue.
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Nick Grey
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by Nick Grey » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:15 pm
Spice v Spanton looks like playing with an enormous new year hangover.