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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Joshua Gibbs » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Joshua Gibbs wrote:my friend JusticeBot lost to Wesley So though he was the exchange up at one point.

He beat Nakamura yesterday in blitz i hope he can do well wednesday
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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:36 pm

chess.com week 5 report

chess.com week 6 report

You can work out the round 7 pairings
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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:53 pm

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Joshua Gibbs » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:13 am

Wesley So lost to Mamemdyarov.

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:17 am

Both London teams qualified for the playoffs standings

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:35 pm

Playoffs showing round 1 pairings

Cannes Blockbusters vs London Lions
2478 avg 2463

GM Matthieu Cornette 2599 vs 2276 FM Marcus Harvey
GM Murtas Kazhgaleyev 2594 vs 2456 IM Justin Tan
IM Deimante Daulyte 2421 vs 2488 IM James Adair
Flavio Perez 2298 vs 2635 GM Romain Edouard

Amsterdam Mosquitoes vs London Towers
2499 avg 2462

GM Loek Van Wely 2674 vs 2360 IM Thomas Rendle
GM Wouter Spoelman 2578 vs 2401 IM Peter Roberson
IM Ali Bitalzadeh 2397 vs 2452 GM Keith Arkell
FM Ilias vander Lende 2347 vs 2635 GM Gawain Jones
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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Keith Arkell » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:45 pm

London Lions and London Towers both performed amazing comebacks to proceed to the last 16.

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Nick Burrows » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:58 pm

You can watch a replay of the live feed here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/125653642

Mike may be interested to watch his Witney teammate play in the first game vs GM Cornette

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Chris Rice » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:16 am

There has been a cheating scandal, and a relatively significant one but chess.com in keeping with their lack of transparency policy are officially not saying exactly what type of cheating it was.The match between San Jose and the Las Vegas Desert Rats initially ended 8½-7½ in Las Vegas’ favor, but then two of the Desert Rats’ wins were overturned for reasons of cheating. Not only did that flip the result of the match, it also flipped which team won the last playoff spot in the Pacific Division. If the original result had stood, then Las Vegas would have made the playoffs.

The adjusted match score was Las Vegas - San Jose 6.5-9.5. The original match score:

Las Vegas 8.5 - San Jose 7.5

Gareyev 3-1
Liu 2.5-1.5
Troff 1.5-2.5
Stopa 1.5-2.5

It is likely that only one player was involved so we can speculate that it was either Gareyev or Liu that lost two points in order to generate the new score. Elliott Liu has been accused of cheating in the USCL previously over the following game.

http://uschessleague.com/games2015/liuatoufi15.html

It was felt that 17. Qc2 was the type of mistake only made by computer engines on low-depths as it allows black to push ...g4. Rational players who have just played the lengthy Nd3-Nf2 maneuver to prevent ...g4 would not move the queen away. Even club players who wanted to do so would play h3 first. However, without any comments from chess.com this proves nothing.

There are also chess engine correlations analysis for the four players:

GM Timur Gareyev (FIDE 2617, FIDE rapid 2615) : 387 undecided positions, correlation scores : T1=43.9%, T2=67%, T3=78.3%, blunder rate = 3,88%, acl = 16.77
FM Elliott Liu (FIDE 2284) : 285 pos, T-scores : 42.6%/57.2%/68.2%, br=5.26%, acl=17.26
GM Kayden Troff (FIDE 2511) : 675 pos, T-scores : 39.6%/63.2%/70.7%, br=4.44%, acl=17.26
GM Jacek Stopa (FIDE 2453, FIDE rapid 2511) : 191 pos, T-scores : 39.1%/60.1%/79.8%, br=5.24%, acl=16.88

Whether they were used to identify the culprit is again not known.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments ... ss_league/
http://www.danamackenzie.com/blog/?p=4596

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:22 pm

As far as I can tell we have Lions v Marseille Migraines and Towers v Stockholm Snowballs tomorrow
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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:51 pm

Chris Rice wrote: It is likely that only one player was involved so we can speculate that it was either Gareyev or Liu that lost two points in order to generate the new score.
If you can narrow it down to two players and don't say which one it is, surely that's rather unfair on the one it isn't.
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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Alan Walton » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:16 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Chris Rice wrote: It is likely that only one player was involved so we can speculate that it was either Gareyev or Liu that lost two points in order to generate the new score.
If you can narrow it down to two players and don't say which one it is, surely that's rather unfair on the one it isn't.
As there was an adjustment in the result then all four are under suspicion, but as Chris said if this was just one player being caught, then the suspicion falls on only two due to the scores; unless somebody actually gives more detail then both these are suspected of the crime

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:30 pm

Chris Rice wrote:


It was felt that 17. Qc2 was the type of mistake only made by computer engines on low-depths as it allows black to push ...g4.



That's such a tabiya position from the Kings Indian, that Qc2 in that exact position or even the general idea, could well have been a computer move, but one that was discovered in pre-game analysis. Black is likely to play .. g4 anyway, even if it's a pawn sacrifice.

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:37 pm

It may be that they were 'caught' with engine correlation analysis, and Qc2 was given as the best example of a clear computeresque move.

Surely this is going to be an ongoing problem with these type of online competitions. Incidences of cheating will likely be much more commonplace.

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Re: PRO Chess League

Post by Alex McFarlane » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:59 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:Surely this is going to be an ongoing problem with these type of online competitions. Incidences of cheating will likely be much more commonplace.
There was another match in this tournament where the result was changed and then changed back again. This has resulted in a 12 year old being named and accused of cheating both in the match and at other events.

It is bad enough when an adult is accused of cheating without any real proof ... it is deplorable when this happens to a junior.