Chess Player Sues FIDE For Not Giving Him The GM Title
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Chess Player Sues FIDE For Not Giving Him The GM Title
Interesting case of Italian player, Braga, suing FIDE as he believes he should have been awarded the GM title. The case is currently underway at the Court of Arbitration CAS 2017/A/5073 Fernando Braga vs World Chess Federation (FIDE). Braga is claiming that FIDE are stringing it out so he runs out of money to fight the case though why FIDE would be so underhand rather than give him the GM title is not that clear.
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Emil Sutovsky on FB: "Very unusual story. I don't have enough information to take sides here, but I think FIDE has to be consistent in its attitude. It has awarded the GM title to the dozens of players who fulfilled the norms in the rigged tournaments. Some of them were fixed, some of them existed only on paper. And FIDE didn't bother. Here they may be right technically, but then again, we'd expect them to be as principled on many other occasions. This selectivity is truly annoying."
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Wouldn't it be nice if he came forward with a bit of evidence for once, or even encouraged ACP members to do so. Fat chance.Chris Rice wrote:Emil Sutovsky on FB: "Very unusual story. I don't have enough information to take sides here, but I think FIDE has to be consistent in its attitude. It has awarded the GM title to the dozens of players who fulfilled the norms in the rigged tournaments. Some of them were fixed, some of them existed only on paper. And FIDE didn't bother. "
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Re: Chess Player Sues FIDE For Not Giving Him The GM Title
If Braga wins his case, which basically seems to hinge on norms gained back in the 90's, would that open the door for any untitled older English players with GM or IM norms from the same period?
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.
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Re: Chess Player Sues FIDE For Not Giving Him The GM Title
I think there's also a dependency on his claim that he's met the 2500 rating requirement, which seems dubious to me. He's never had a published, or interim, rating of 2500, but claims he would have done if two tournaments he played in the late-90s had been rated. FIDE say the tournaments can't be included in the calculation of his rating because they were never submitted for rating by the organisers. He claims they should be included because there is good evidence they took place. Allowing that aspect of the claim would put FIDE in a very difficult position. How many other people have narrowly missed out on meeting a rating requirement due to tournaments not being rated correctly, or at all?Brian Towers wrote:If Braga wins his case, which basically seems to hinge on norms gained back in the 90's
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Unlikely I would think. The ECF Director in charge of rating submissions at the time FIDE imposed a submit it or lose it policy, went to exceptional lengths to document all Norm performances even where there was little likelihood of the player concerned being able to fill in the other missing gaps in their personal achievements. Contemporary observations are on this forum.Brian Towers wrote:would that open the door for any untitled older English players with GM or IM norms from the same period?
It might have helped England's most recent IM qualifier to have his performances from 20 years ago properly documented.
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This one? https://ratings.fide.com/title_norms.ph ... 9&title=IMRoger de Coverly wrote:Unlikely I would think. The ECF Director in charge of rating submissions at the time FIDE imposed a submit it or lose it policy, went to exceptional lengths to document all Norm performances even where there was little likelihood of the player concerned being able to fill in the other missing gaps in their personal achievements. Contemporary observations are on this forum.Brian Towers wrote:would that open the door for any untitled older English players with GM or IM norms from the same period?
It might have helped England's most recent IM qualifier to have his performances from 20 years ago properly documented.
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Re: Chess Player Sues FIDE For Not Giving Him The GM Title
There are hundreds of tournaments all over England every year where there is "good evidence they took place". However, they deliberately aren't FIDE-rated. I wonder if the organisers registered their tournaments with FIDE by the appropriate deadline?Ian Thompson wrote:FIDE say the tournaments can't be included in the calculation of his rating because they were never submitted for rating by the organisers. He claims they should be included because there is good evidence they took place.
Also, why not argue about this 20 years ago?
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What are the time limits for these type of claims? it is probably out of time. Ought to have been raised with the organisers.
Think about our ECF grading database & reports. There is not 20 years worth of information publically accessible.
Think about our ECF grading database & reports. There is not 20 years worth of information publically accessible.