2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:38 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:
JustinHorton wrote:I think we will see MVL and Svidler tomorrow.
A reasonable assumption as they've already drawn :)
To be fair, they had not when I made it.
Though engines give Black a significant edge FWIW.
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Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:42 pm

Yeah I was surprised Svidler called it off a early as he did.

Fedoseev might still be alive if he gets his king active.
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Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:54 pm

Meanwhile Rapport has so far used 18 minutes on considering move 26 (eight minutes left) which I reckon means he thinks he's lost this one.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:00 pm

Come on, So v Fedoseev. Put your minds to it, and you can surely reach R + P v B + P.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Martin Benjamin » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:06 pm

39...Kf4 40 Bd2 would be an unusual mating pattern in So v Fedoseev.

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Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:06 pm

I wanted Fedoseev to hazard his d-pawn for counterplay earlier. Instead he seems to have gone for the strategy of trying to protect everything, and I don't think it'll work.

By contrast, Rapport might have a better chance than I thought he thought he had. (EDIT: he didn't.)
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:22 pm

Having his K cut off will doom RR, I would say.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:24 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Having his K cut off will doom RR, I would say.
Yes 1-0, Ding through, probably to play So.

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Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:25 pm

I wonder if he had to lose that from the position at, say, move 35? I thought it looked OK at the time but the more I look at it, the less I still think so.

Ding's looking in some form.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:32 pm

JustinHorton wrote:I wonder if he had to lose that from the position at, say, move 35? I thought it looked OK at the time but the more I look at it, the less I still think so.

Ding's looking in some form.
It looks lost, white is a pawn up, will create an outside passed pawn (on both sides of the board), fewer pawn islands and a more active rook. White could still go wrong but at that level I would expect white to convert.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:42 pm

JustinHorton wrote:I wonder if he had to lose that from the position at, say, move 35? I thought it looked OK at the time but the more I look at it, the less I still think so.

Ding's looking in some form.
He seems to play with such confidence, doesn't he? A worthy semi-finalist, and his aforementioned "team" might help to neutralise what would ordinarily be a possible advantage to So on preparation.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:45 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote: He seems to play with such confidence, doesn't he?
Certainly with the White pieces. Not saying he doesn't with Black, just that I've not really noticed his Black games, only the last couple of really smooth White efforts.

Mind you So, if it is So, is usually pretty solid on the Black side.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:58 pm

Aronian through with a 71 move draw. So still better against Fedoseev.

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Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:14 pm

So also wins and will face Ding in the semi-final.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:16 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote: So still better against Fedoseev.
Looks like he found a route to a winning position.

This is where they started (Black to move)


and this is where they've reached (Black to move)


Fedoseev has resigned.
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